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Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:02:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
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> > Scott A wrote:
> > > There are real issue out their • (sic)
> > > which are worth talking about
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> Loss of first amendment rights (while the populace cheers on the loss) in
> the US *is* a real issue, whether you like it or not.
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> In fact, whether you *understand* it or not, actually, since you have
> demonstrated with your slurring and sniping and rails against child
> pornography that you don't understand what the first amendment actually
> means or why it is important.
I do not think I have metioned child in this thread... but you are correct,
I do not understand it. Do you support child pornography? What about child
prositution?
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> > > It
> > > often surprises me how big news stories in the US/world(1) never make it to
> > > this group, instead we talk about how much morals a stone can have.
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> "how many morals" or "how much morality" would be the correct usage, I think.
Is this the best you can do?
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> This would be because *you* dragged the conversation there, I think. In my
> view it was you that narrowed the focus down to sparring over what amoral
> means because you'd rather do that than admit you were caught in a
> contradiction.
Ah. It is my fault. I see. I should have guessed.
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> How like you to then complain about it, Scott.
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> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1402000/1402880.stm
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> > Wow!.. Is this really a big news story? I didn't expected that.
I did.
Scott A
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> I'd characterise it as significant! It's bad news for democracy to ban
> political parties (or make the playing field uneven, as it is in the US),
> even ones that are advocating non democratic courses. (that is why banning
> the Communist party was wrong back when the US did it)
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> Was it something you were aware of already, Selçuk? That is, did it make the
> Turkish press? And how does the Turkish press reporting contrast with the
> BBCs? My view of the Turkish press (based on nothing at all other than gut
> feeling and some superficial reading) is that it's not particularly free.
> (tieing back to the First Amendment and freedom of press)
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> ++Lar
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