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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:11:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> When did the polling take place?
> What group was polled – age/sex/ethnic background?
> What order were the questioned asked in?
> Was any supplemental information given?
> How was the poll undertaken - telephone / face-to-face/via the web?
> Were any other questions asked?
> Who are the “polling experts at the University of Connecticut” – and was
> their comment related to the poll?
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> It is reassuring that this is the level of debate in the LP. No doubt the
> freedom forum and the LP are working hard as we speak to ensure US kids can
> be exposed to porn and violence.
What's wrong with that? Are you advocating limits on speech rights? If you
don't want your kids exposed to porn and violence - monitor what they are
watching. Just because the US is a democracy doesn't mean the the individual
household has to be. (quoting a childhood friend's mother)
> Scott A
>
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > From my usual source, the Libertarian propaganda (NOT spam, mind you, I
> > wanted it sent it to me, and I, as a regular participant of this group, feel
> > it's worthy of discussion, so people who initially label it as spam are rude
> > or clueless, take your pick) that I get in my email...
> >
> > -- start --
> >
> > This past week, the New York-based First Amendment Center revealed that
> > a startling number of Americans are willing or eager to give the
> > government more control over speech and the press. Of the 1,102 adults
> > randomly surveyed by telephone across the nation:
> >
> > * 46% said the press in America has "too much freedom to do what it
> > wants." By contrast, only 36% think there is "too much government
> > censorship."
> >
> > * 71% think it is somewhat or very important for the government "to
> > hold the media in check."
> >
> > * 39% agree "the First Amendment goes too far in the rights it
> > guarantees." That's up dramatically from just 22% who held that opinion
> > last year.
> >
> > * 64% disagreed that "people should be allowed to say things in public
> > that might be offensive to racial groups," with 36% saying there should
> > be laws against such speech.
> >
> > -- end excerpt --
> >
> > That scares me. I think our current press is a bit slanted but I'd never
> > want to see it *restricted*!!!
> >
> > Call me elitist if you like but ... Unfettered majority rule scares me.
> > People in large groups can be so clueless.
> >
> > I did a little digging on the FAC, I beleive this is their URL:
> > http://www.freedomforum.org/first and this is the survey in question
> > http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14257
> >
> > This organization (based on my read of where they get their money) is not
> > particularly Libertarian, except inasmuch as the LP and libertarians share
> > their viewpoint that free speech is a good thing.
> >
> > ++Lar
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