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More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:51:14 GMT
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When did the polling take place?
What group was polled – age/sex/ethnic background?
What order were the questioned asked in?
Was any supplemental information given?
How was the poll undertaken - telephone / face-to-face/via the web?
Were any other questions asked?
Who are the “polling experts at the University of Connecticut” – and was
their comment related to the poll?

It is reassuring that this is the level of debate in the LP. No doubt the
freedom forum and the LP are working hard as we speak to ensure US kids can
be exposed to porn and violence.

Scott A


In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
From my usual source, the Libertarian propaganda (NOT spam, mind you, I
wanted it sent it to me, and I, as a regular participant of this group, feel
it's worthy of discussion, so people who initially label it as spam are rude
or clueless, take your pick) that I get in my email...

-- start --

This past week, the New York-based First Amendment Center revealed that
a startling number of Americans are willing or eager to give the
government more control over speech and the press. Of the 1,102 adults
randomly surveyed by telephone across the nation:

* 46% said the press in America has "too much freedom to do what it
wants." By contrast, only 36% think there is "too much government
censorship."

* 71% think it is somewhat or very important for the government "to
hold the media in check."

* 39% agree "the First Amendment goes too far in the rights it
guarantees." That's up dramatically from just 22% who held that opinion
last year.

* 64% disagreed that "people should be allowed to say things in public
that might be offensive to racial groups," with 36% saying there should
be laws against such speech.

-- end excerpt --

That scares me. I think our current press is a bit slanted but I'd never
want to see it *restricted*!!!

Call me elitist if you like but ... Unfettered majority rule scares me.
People in large groups can be so clueless.

I did a little digging on the FAC, I beleive this is their URL:
http://www.freedomforum.org/first  and this is the survey in question
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14257

This organization (based on my read of where they get their money) is not
particularly Libertarian, except inasmuch as the LP and libertarians share
their viewpoint that free speech is a good thing.

++Lar



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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) What's wrong with that? Are you advocating limits on speech rights? If you don't want your kids exposed to porn and violence - monitor what they are watching. Just because the US is a democracy doesn't mean the the individual household has to (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Survey methodology
 
(...) (URL) section) is all the info I have. Seems like your fairly standard telephone survey, and they are not claiming huge accuracy, just the fairly typical (for this sample size) 95 confidence +/- 3% (for the entire group) results. Since this is (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
 
From my usual source, the Libertarian propaganda (NOT spam, mind you, I wanted it sent it to me, and I, as a regular participant of this group, feel it's worthy of discussion, so people who initially label it as spam are rude or clueless, take your (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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