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Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:28:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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> > I'm not sure that direness is the right metric. Sometimes non-civil disorder
> > is the only way to actually accomplish anything. I've never done anything >with
> > or like ALF actions, and I've never bombed abortion clinics. But I understand
> > the thinking behind them.
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> I understand the motivation too, I think (who can be *sure* they understand
> the motivation of others?). But I cannot condone force initiation. We must
> exhaust the rule of law first before we get that extreme.
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> I share your concern about farming practices. Over pesticiding and
> monoculture are very bad and have severe long term consequences. But I am
> not sure I see an easy way to get those who practice them to share the true
> costs of their actions, as we were all discussing pretty recently.
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> It must be frustrating to see injustice that hits home and not be able to do
> anything very effective about it unless you get violent.
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> I KNOW it is frustrating to me, since I think our current political party
> system is fraught with injustice, and worse, we are trampling all over the
> bill of rights on a regular basis
Perhaps it is time it was brought into the 21st century? Much of it is based
on the English bill of rights which dates back to 1689.
Scott A
> (I need to go back to Matt G's point by
> point and refute it point by point... too little time). But what is to be
> done? We CANNOT and MUST NOT take the Kazcinski (sp?) or McVeigh route. That
> way lies madness.
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> ++Lar
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