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Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
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Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:50:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:

I'm not sure that direness is the right metric.  Sometimes non-civil disorder
is the only way to actually accomplish anything.  I've never done anything >with
or like ALF actions, and I've never bombed abortion clinics.  But I understand
the thinking behind them.

I understand the motivation too, I think (who can be *sure* they understand
the motivation of others?). But I cannot condone force initiation. We must
exhaust the rule of law first before we get that extreme.

I share your concern about farming practices. Over pesticiding and
monoculture are very bad and have severe long term consequences. But I am
not sure I see an easy way to get those who practice them to share the true
costs of their actions, as we were all discussing pretty recently.

It must be frustrating to see injustice that hits home and not be able to do
anything very effective about it unless you get violent.

I KNOW it is frustrating to me, since I think our current political party
system is fraught with injustice, and worse, we are trampling all over the
bill of rights on a regular basis (I need to go back to Matt G's point by
point and refute it point by point... too little time). But what is to be
done? We CANNOT and MUST NOT take the Kazcinski (sp?) or McVeigh route. That
way lies madness.

++Lar



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  Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) Perhaps it is time it was brought into the 21st century? Much of it is based on the English bill of rights which dates back to 1689. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) How do you mean 'only' Frank? I mean, you could just type an email to your senator and figure that you've done your part. That would be an alternative action. But it wouldn't do anything. You could picket in front of the place. That would be (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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