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Subject:	Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:30:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: > I will judge burning down buildings. That is a very serious act, which > can easily get out of control. I would find very few situations to be so > dire that the only course of action is to set a fire. How do you mean 'only' Frank? I mean, you could just type an email to your senator and figure that you've done your part. That would be an alternative action. But it wouldn't do anything. You could picket in front of the place. That would be an alternative action. And maybe with superhuman stamina you would effect small changes over a long time. You could note the license plates of the people who work there and trace them home, follow them around and beat them with an axe handle at unexpected times. That would be an alternative action. But that wouldn't really help you either. I'm not sure that direness is the right metric. Sometimes non-civil disorder is the only way to actually accomplish anything. I've never done anything with or like ALF actions, and I've never bombed abortion clinics. But I understand the thinking behind them. Chris

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		Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) I understand the motivation too, I think (who can be sure they understand the motivation of others?). But I cannot condone force initiation. We must exhaust the rule of law first before we get that extreme. I share your concern about farming (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) I think there's a real difference between burning down a supposedly empty building (the reports I've read weren't "empty" buildings, and destroyed not just the potentially abusive research, but also research which did not use animals) and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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