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Subject:	Another interesting essay & how I found it (was: gay by birth vs. gay by choice)
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Date:	Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:01:57 GMT
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Here is the essay on Homosexauality: http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/homosexuality.html (b.t.w. I don't agree with a lot of the conclusions drawn) & here is how I found it. A few months ago I found out about the Baha'i faith. The following principles of the Baha'i faith are why I researched it further. - Humanity, in all its diversity, is one. - Human beings are fundamentally spiritual with great potential to be good. - Everyone must search for truth independently & freely. - Religion must be the cause of unity. - Religion must be in accord with science & reason. - Men and women are equal. - Predjudice of all kinds must be removed. - Education should be accessible to all. - A world government must be established to deal with international issues. - A universal language must be chosen which will facilitate understanding between people. If you are interested in finding out more about the faith, this is there website: http://www.bahai.com/ I found it to be a very uplifting experience to know that there were so many other people that had similar beliefs to me. Initially I did have some trouble with the idea of God (myself being an atheist), though this was something that I was willing to pursue given the principles of the faith & my own lack of experience & knowledge on the subject. Sometime later I was quite destressed to find out that Homosexuality is forbidden by the Baha'i faith & is considered 'against nature'. I found this very disheartening & have lost interest since. I felt that it was possibly in conflict with the principle of 'Religion must be in accord with science & reason.' Many people (including myself) believe that being gay is something you are rather than something you choose. IMO turning a gay person straight isn't possible. IMO someone cannot change the essence of who they are (sexuallity & relationships a big part of most peoples lives). They might be able to disguise there feelings but IMO gay people can't be 'cured' (because IMO it isn't a disease) Hopefully you found my story & opinions interesting. Carl

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		Re: Another interesting essay & how I found it (was: gay by birth vs. gay by choice)
(...) change (...) Thanks for that Carl, I enjoyed your post (although I've not read the follow up URLs yet) and tend to agree with your sentiment. The notion of choosing who you fancy seems absurd; I mean how many of us end up with the partners we (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Another interesting essay & how I found it (was: gay by birth vs. gay by choice)
(...) For contrast, here are some principals for Unitarian Universalism set with those of the Bahai faith: Unitarian Universalists commonly hold: (...) The inherent worth and dignity of all people. (UU pricipal #1) (...) Acceptance of one another (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		gay by birth vs. gay by choice
the following is a question and answer excerpt from a debate on another website. The questions seem to me very clear and logical. The answers, however, do not; sometimes they seem rather desperate. I find it very interesting that the person (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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