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Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:26:33 GMT
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(don't mind me, I'm just a teenager who doesn't really know alot)
I've been reading through this whole debate with interest, I know a girl who
is gay and she says she knew ever since puberty (However she still hasn't
told her parents [which makes me wonder: If no one knows, do you still
repent?]). Anyways, with all this 'bickering' about sins, repenting etc etc.
I can't help but be reminded of a quote from The Simpsons
(This is from my vauge memory)
Rev. Lovejoy: Lisa, according to this (he holds up a bible) everything is a
sin. Technically we are not even supposed to go to the bathroom.
--
Erin
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > > Yes, if any of your above examples become reality, then the Bible is thereby
> > > proven falacious.
> >
> > Why? What part is falacious?
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> The part that says sin can be overcome and must be repented of for
> acceptance into the kingdom, unfortunately some in the gay community want
> Christianity, but not the rules.
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> > I presume that you mean to say that God would create humans with equal
> > desires towards sinning. Hence, if it were found that SOME people had MORE
> > desire to sin based on their genetics, that it would prove that God does NOT
> > create people with equal desires. And that would be a contradiction, yes, I
> > agree.
> >
> > However. I never saw it publicized in the Bible that God creates all men
> > with equal desires for sin. In fact, as obviated, He creates people of all
> > sorts of varieties. And it is each of their quests in turn to deal with
> > their unique situation and maintain faith, obedience, and love of God, no
> > matter what their predisposition. That the Earth is not a TESTING ground,
> > but a TRAINING ground. That we must be trained to deal with our desires and
> > know which ones to follow and which ones not to follow.
> >
> > So I just don't see what aspect of Christianity is falacious if a gay gene
> > exists.
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> Having a genetic behavior suggests that the behavior cannot be overcome,
> Christians don't believe that any sin is that powerful. Thus the demand by
> the Bible for repentence.
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> > > Do you think I could offer blood
> > > sacrifices to Elvis and still be Christian?
> >
> > I suppose so. But I expect that such a hypothetical person really WON'T
> > exist. In order to be a Christian, they'd have to have taken some
> > interpretations in the Bible WAY wrong. In other words, I don't think anyone
> > ever has, is, or will be a Christian and still do this.
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> Many people do not believe that a person would choose to be gay either. But
> the point is, many gay individuals believe they can be Christian without
> repenting of the sin of homosexuality.
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> > As for the research, check o-t.debate history. It came up not long ago (and
> > also before then)-- I think I was talking with James Simpson recently on
> > potentially the exact issue. IE what one can and can't do and still be
> > Christian.
> >
> > DaveE
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| (...) The part that says sin can be overcome and must be repented of for acceptance into the kingdom, unfortunately some in the gay community want Christianity, but not the rules. (...) Having a genetic behavior suggests that the behavior cannot be (...) (23 years ago, 5-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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