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Subject: 
Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
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Date: 
Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:28:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
Why are you attempting to debate the very nature of Christianity.  It has a
written instruction perceived to be influenced by a devine entity and has
power via the individuals who believe it.  Christians are just as free as
anybody to believe what they want, but Christianity cannot be rewritten
without accepting the notion of a falable god.  Any belief that deviates
from the instruction of the Holy Bible is not Christian, no matter how
similiar the belief may be.

Maybe you're not understanding the question... I'll try and ask again. What
difference does it make whether or not we're genetically predisposed to
prefer sin? If I have an urge to steal, to murder, to not worship God, or to
be gay, what difference does it make where that urge comes from? Isn't the
important part in Christianity that you can overcome the urge and NOT follow
it, thanks to your faith/love in/from God?

And as to Christianity being violated in the specific, what part of the
Bible is directly contradicted by the existance of the gay gene? I'm not
aware of ANYTHING in the Bible that would even remotely be affected by the
presence of such a gene.

An interesting note to ponder:  The Bible is very explicit where sex is
concerned and states that many forms of sexual behavior are abominations.
However, nowhere does the Bible say that a certain race of people should be
ostrasized, only certain behaviors.  The Bible refers to homosexuality as a
sexual behaviour.

Yes. To the best of my knowledge, the Bible referrs to homosexual acts as
... at least "not good", although I don't know the specific diagnosis. IIRC
it was something along the lines of "A man shall not lie with another man as
a man lies with a woman. Any man found lying with another man shall be
[punishment X]" Note, however, it says nothing about the desire itself. And
yes, Christianity itself doesn't teach ostracism. It just practices it lots.
Those who I know who I consider to be 'good' Christians don't ostracize. I
don't know many.

DaveE



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(...) I'm not sure where to go with this part of the debate without actually veering into a no-holds-barred religious debate. The idea of sin is based on faith, that immorality is a wrong against a god. As such, sin could never be proven or (...) (23 years ago, 5-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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Why are you attempting to debate the very nature of Christianity. It has a written instruction perceived to be influenced by a devine entity and has power via the individuals who believe it. Christians are just as free as anybody to believe what (...) (23 years ago, 4-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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