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Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
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Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:47:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> > This seems like as good a place as any to jump in.
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> > The research i've done shows that a gay scientist found evidence of a gay
> > gene, but no one has been able to duplicate his results. In scientific
> > research, that is a very serious thing. It may have been better if he had
> > quietly coerced other scientists to duplicate his tests, then their failures
> > would not have overshadowed his possibly biased results.
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> You are correct that independent corroboration is vital in verifying
> scientific observation. It is to the serious discredit of the "gay
> scientist" that no one else has made an equivalent finding, so we are better
> off suspending final judgment until someone else can confirm the observation.
> Of course, if it's not a function of one's genes but of the structure of
> one's brain, then it's unimportant that we can't find a gay gene.
It is my understanding that the human brain can "change" according to a
person's mental development. If so, then study on the brain to find a
common link to homosexuality would be suspect.
> > Proving that the gay gene exists is a very serious matter. If it does
> > exist, then over 4,000 yrs. of religious doctrine must be either changed or
> > simply buried. Also, gay individuals could then demand special treatment
> > similiar to other racial minorities, much of which would come out of
> > taxpayers wallets.
>
> So you're stating, in effect, that if I can identify a genetic cause of my
> left-handedness, my southpaw kindred and I are going to storm Capital Hill
> to tap into the US Entitlement Coffers? Your supposition is premature and,
> frankly, xenophobic.
Handed-ness does not promote a lively-hood that requires any special needs
other than variations on some tools, which have been supplied to the
left-handed public. Nor do left handed individuals suffer from religious
strife since the Christian Holy Bible does not declare left-handedness a sin.
> > There are many other possible negatives that can and would occure with
> > the "official" acknowledgement of yet another racial minority/special
> > interest group. Personally, I think we have enough problems trying to
> > appease everyone already.
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> But you're proposing that, if a "gay gene" is found, the truth of its
> discovery would be a detriment. That's hardly consistent with scientific
> ideals, which follow a path based (more or less) on "truth at all costs, and
> truth before pleasantness." If there's a "gay gene," there's a "gay gene,"
> and we'll just have to deal with it.
Yes, personally I think it would be a detriment for society to once again
have to force itself to accept the demands of yet another minority group.
How many people would be labled crimminal for believing the Bible? This is
a potential holy war. I think it would be more prudent to simply enforce
the freedom of choice instead, then by the time science is more exact,
purhaps the discovery of a gay gene really wouldn't have much effect.
> > The more thought I put into this matter, the more it feels like a political
> > movement.
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> Like The Christian Coalition, for instance?
>
> Dave!
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| (...) Doesn't it depend on what the demands are? What if all they want is a fair shot? (...) Probably the same number that are currently labelled criminal for disliking negros. None. You are free to dislike whomever you want. The problem is when you (...) (23 years ago, 4-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You are correct that independent corroboration is vital in verifying scientific observation. It is to the serious discredit of the "gay scientist" that no one else has made an equivalent finding, so we are better off suspending final judgment (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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