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Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
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Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:35:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
> Kirby Warden wrote:
> >
> > This seems like as good a place as any to jump in.
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> > The research i've done shows that a gay scientist found evidence of a gay
> > gene, but no one has been able to duplicate his results. In scientific
> > research, that is a very serious thing. It may have been better if he had
> > quietly coerced other scientists to duplicate his tests, then their failures
> > would not have overshadowed his possibly biased results.
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> Quietly coercing other scientists to duplicate research sounds like a
> more serious issue then a lack of repetability. I'm not sure if I'm
> parsing your meaning of your last sentence correctly but putting out an
> idea and seeing if others get the same results is part of science.
> There are countless examples of this in the literature. I'm reading
> your last sentence as something more sinister- only publishing if others
> get the same pattern. That's bad science practice.
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> Unless you mean that he should have said "Hmm, I found a 'gay-gene' and
> this seems like a big deal and the media is going to latch onto this.
> Maybe I should have ask some colleages to try the same procedure to see
> if my results are just a fluke?" I would see this as good practice. Of
> course, in the uber-competive nature of the biomedical fields, you won't
> find this happening much.
Your second example is what I was aiming for.
> > Proving that the gay gene exists is a very serious matter. If it does
> > exist, then over 4,000 yrs. of religious doctrine must be either changed or
> > simply buried. Also, gay individuals could then demand special treatment
> > similiar to other racial minorities, much of which would come out of
> > taxpayers wallets. There are many other possible negatives that can and
> > would occure with the "official" acknowledgement of yet another racial
> > minority/special interest group. Personally, I think we have enough
> > problems trying to appease everyone already.
>
> So anyone with 'rare' genes should be allowed to be a special
> interest... ... I think I just decided that the media should be banned
> from reporting on genes. (kidding in a frustrated manner )
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> I'm taking issue with the idea of a gay gene. It can't be a
> single-locus gene(if it is genetically based)- how would that gene be
> maintained in the population?
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> > The more thought I put into this matter, the more it feels like a political
> > movement.
>
> now you're thinking...
>
> -chris
Not sure if you're actually agreeing with me or not, but thanks for not
attacking me.
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