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Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:31:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
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> > The research i've done shows that a gay scientist found evidence of a gay
> > gene, but no one has been able to duplicate his results.
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> How many attempts have been made to corroborate his findings?
he has done it three times himself and succeeded while at least two others
have tried and failed.
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> > In scientific research, that is a very serious thing.
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> I don't know about "very serious" such findings are a part of the scientific
> process.
When it comes to researhing genetic behavior, especially one of controversy,
care should be taken not to give false hope, or insight unecessary angst.
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> > It may have been better if he had
> > quietly coerced other scientists to duplicate his tests,
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> Sorry? How would that have been better?
I'm not sure, but is seems plausible concerning the controversy of a gay gene.
> > Proving that the gay gene exists is a very serious matter. If it does
> > exist, then over 4,000 yrs. of religious doctrine must be either changed or
> > simply buried.
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> Why?
i've done significanct research into Christianity and have found that the
discovery of gay gene would have serious repercussions throughout society.
> > Also, gay individuals could then demand special treatment
> > similiar to other racial minorities, much of which would come out of
> > taxpayers wallets.
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> Gosh. Like what?
I have the impression you are trying to bait me.
> > There are many other possible negatives that can and
> > would occure with the "official" acknowledgement of yet another racial
> > minority/special interest group. Personally, I think we have enough
> > problems trying to appease everyone already.
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> So the solution is to continue to alienate a reasonably large segment of the
> American populace? I don't think anyone should be getting special bennies, but
> a fair shot at the moon is owed to everyone.
Are you purposely misreading me? I am trying to defend the right to choose
a gay lifestyle rather than try and appease yet another minority race.
However, the gay community that I debated with elsewhere distinctly stated
that gay-by-choice is not an option. I see a fundamental difference between
a society defending the rights of gay-by-choice rather than being forced to
change to accept gay-by-birth.
> > However, if the gay population is such by mere choice, then none of the
> > above applies.
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> Why not?
An individuals right to choose a lifestyle is already enforceable by law.
> > The more thought I put into this matter, the more it feels like a political
> > movement.
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> They have been forced to become a political movement because they were murdered
> and discriminated against by those who were not able to find it in themselves
> to see people instead of filthy faggots.
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> Chris
And who forced "them" to parade around society demanding that people treat
them special? If a man comes to my table at a restaraunt and anounces that
he is gay, then demands to know if I have a problem with that, I think I
might leave with some negativity towards the gay population if that were my
first contact with an "open" homosexual. I am convinced that much of the
social stigma towards the gay community was perpetuated by some of the early
vocal out-of-the-closet "clowns".
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