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(...) This is a major misperception from what I have read in numerous e-mail posts from people in Great Britain, do you have examples of "limited access" to health care, etc. or is this just a random statement? You can go to any employer here and (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<384689C9.2BC09E99@hw.ac.uk> <38468B94.73FC33EC@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I won't respond to this. (...) Just take it that I agree or have no opinion on the points I do not respond (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, it wouldn't. (1) I can't offer an explanation for it either. But I can stick to what I told you he told me about it. That's the truth. (...) Well, we weren't talking about the weather, we were talking about substantive issues directly (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I should stay out of pissing matches, but hey, I've got a full bladder so... Another little point in this issue. Is it ok for Paul, or TLC for that matter to make money on LEGO sets? If not, how do you expect to get them? If so, why is it ok (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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OK, OK, let's drop this. Scott, you do snipe at people and you're not the only one from the UK (or the US for that matter) that does. It annoys me to no end to carefully craft a response and have most of it ignored so the responder can score some (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm really tempted to tell you what _I_ think. But I do not think that is anyone's interest, including my own I suppose. All I'll say is people in class houses should throw stones. Scott A (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That would explain why after that he started up his one per customer rule. A rule which I think he has since set aside... or at least for me :-). What is pertinent about the length of your conversation with paul? I have spoken to Paul 4 or 5 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Other than to let you know that not just one, but two people perceive your posts that way. I don't know about you, but when 1 person tells me I'm doing something annoying I might just think it's their problem. When two people (or more) tell (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was hardly worth saying it then? (...) Now I'm not sure if I like _your_ tone. If I ask questions you don't like, just ignore them. Scott A (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe. But his costs to do a one off are pretty steep and he told me (again, I remind you, I've had some rather lengthy conversations about this topic with him, something you don't yet seem to have internalised) he was glad to have sold a (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The same thing Larry did. And of the same thing I'm doing right now - not bothering to actually respond to anything else you say at all, ignoring an opportunity to actually further discussion, but simply coming back with an almost smartass (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not "presenting" an argument, I'm just answering the question. That is what I do, you, or anyone else, are free to do what ever they want, or at least I hope you are. (...) Did I say that? (...) As you did with this post? (...) What are (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So if Larry were selling coffee beans or stock (as he does - the stock, not the coffee beans (or does he?)) then it would be ok with you if he sells them for "money" or would it only be ok if he sold them in order to be able to buy more of (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes I think we should. If nothing else, some of the posts above are startinging to get a little paranoid. Scott A (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So has BB now sold out of these (8880's)? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every new customer Paul gets, is one that might come back again. I'm sure he'd be happy if he sold a few of these sets to new customers. (...) Lego is for making constructions, not making money. I sell on ebay/trl/lugnet to get money to buy (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I meant "making an untrue statement", rather than "intent to decieve" - I should have clairified though. (...) The power of suggestion? :) (...) Flu sucks.. or maybe that statement doesn't belong .debate (...) You'd be spot on if I had (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oooooooohhhhhh! If only I hadn't blown my LEGO budget!! I'd love to get my hands on a couple of these for a good price!! Bugger!! Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Everyone seems to ignore the efforts and costs of the phone calling. I didn't get any hoppers because I didn't force myself to get up early enough in the morning to call from home since I've never bothered to get a phone card so I could call (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Can't we all just get along?" said Reginold Denning... (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sounds good :) (...) My personal view is that it's nicer to give 20 people 1 thing, than give 1 person 20 things (related specifically to Lego deals in this example). That doesn't logically extend to saying that the one person who has the 20 (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doesn't just seem that way to you... (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The latter, I suspect, at least at the basic theory level. I'm more interested in trying to get to the bottom of what I perceive as a "resentment" issue that surfaced again while discussing the Entertainer situation... Seems to me that there (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, that sounds almost as optimistic as my view of the world ;) I agree that those who work can make opportunities for themselves, but also that those with opportunities have the dice loaded in their favour towards gaining new opportunities. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep. Shirtsleeves to Shirtsleeves in 3 generations, as they say... (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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FUT off-topic.debate (...) So did everyone else, there wasn't one. I don't know if you've run the numbers, but phone calls cost money to Paul. Every call means time he has to spend on the phone, and that's time that he isn't waiting on customers. He (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Yeah, because for every hard working, self-made mi/bi/tri/etc.llionaire, there are 2.5 deadbeat, silverspooned offspring who have most likely been ignored and have no concepts of value or any other redeeming (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The former. Those who work hard make their own chances and get their own opportunities, therefore don't need help from some sort of scheme to make things "equal" as long as the government they're under isn't actively suppressing rights. There (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ooops - yep, thanks! (...) Agreed - equality doesn't have to be applied universally to make some things more "equal". I don't think that I implied that everything in the world should be "equal". (...) "Undeserving" is a very ambiguous term, do (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This NEEDS to go to off-topic.debate, followups set there. Suffice it to say that I'd not care to live in a world where everything was "equal". To me, "equal" means taking away from those of ability and giving to the undeserving. (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And a rather predatory desire on the part of someone to "take advantage" of the mistake. What I've seen on various DVD good deals forums is that the people who are the quickest and most excited (and most open) about exploiting an obvious (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It wasn't a single instance. Each of the entries on the main page had all three data points (i.e. 'pounds off' 'current price' and 'regular price') In some of the instances, all three lined up, in the rest (the majority) the current price was (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd like to see this topic pursued a little further. This reference added to my belief that the offer was too good to be true, and contributed to my decision not to place an order. I think that James' "obviously wrong" assertion might be (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or "bait and switch" where they advertise something they don't really have to get you into the store, and then turn around and say, well, we sold out of the $20 TV, but we've got this nice model which is a lot nicer for $500. (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. And anyway, after you decide you're going to "hold them to it" and they say "no" it is no longer an ethical question, but a legal one, and here in the States (and it seems in the UK too) the law sides with the "give it back" side. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think what Larry is saying is that anyone who has ethics that he can respect, will accept that a mistake was made, quickly corrected, and appologies sent to those who were caught up in the mess, along with a token of goodwill. Those people (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It also doesn't explain why it's okay to have all sorts of lethal weapons on the ships, and LEGO has even described them as such (laser cannons), but not in the hands of the 'figs. Lightsabers are ok too- they are definately lethal in the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) even (...) seems (...) That's one of the reasons I like reading lugnet from the "main screen" (the primary URL, www.lugnet.com). It displays messages from all the newsgroups. I do some picking and choosing, of course, but it helps counter my (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Good point. lugnet.people, seems to me, is just the thing to try to combat it. I think Lugnet is BIGGER than RTL is, at least in terms of people who participate regularly, although who knows about lurkers... So it's going to be hard to know (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course you can always step out of your "safe zone" periodically and check out groups/boards that you don't normally read. That way, you will have seized the opportunity to meet lots of people, rather than being passive and missing it. Just (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I was just looking through the membership list and am astonished at the number of names listed that I am not familiar with. In fact, I don't know about 60% of the members. Which makes me wonder: In RTL, I can/could read who posted to any thread, (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, just to put the $.02 in that I never did, I'd say that when writing, either avoid swears all together, or use 'em. The insult/resentment of reading a swear is not in the word itself, as Jeremy pointed out, but in the intention. Hence, (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<SNIP> (...) WORDS (...) WORDS (...) interface (...) it (...) it's (...) case, (...) a (...) Well, then maybe you don´t like me... I write four asterisks "****" instead of a bad word, that I don´t like to use. --Tobias (...) I (...) It (...) (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) What I am basically saying is that if the government is going to provide a good (in this case, disability income), it has the right to set conditions on your receiving that good, just the same as a private (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) law with a classic. :) Lord Doyle (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just to be clear, you mean that the government should not have the right to make it illegal for you to not wear your seatbelt, not that the government should not be able to deny you medical aid should you choose to not wear it and suffer an (...) (25 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As long as you are willing to pay higher insurance rates, and not expect the government to provide for you should you become permanently disabled as a result. followups to lugnet.off-topic.debate... (25 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, sorry. That sounds like something you'd hear on The Practice or some other lawyer show. Rape doesn't (normally) occur as a result of miscommunication. I can't speak for everyone, but even the times when I've had what some might call (...) (25 years ago, 21-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <383e047e.247832761@...et.com>... (...) attacker, and (...) Please note: my discussion below is not intended to diminish the impact of rape or attempted rape on anyone. Something to ponder in thinking about rape as a (...) (25 years ago, 21-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, it oughtn't. That's another discussion, but it does colour my thoughts here. (...) _If_ there is any proof that there was, in fact, a rape goping on. The situation isn't what makes it gray, it's what can be made to look like the same (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Neither am I. (...) You're right, but that doesn't explain why, despite their self-imposed ban on "modern weapons", the Wild West cowboys sport revolvers and rifles that could easily pass for currently-produced versions of the weapons. eric (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Not making any moral judgements here, but I guess you should remember that Lego are Danish, not American. Europeans dont tend to have the same views on guns as Americans. Guns are much more frowned upon by society on the whole, and I this (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) How do you know it was *personal*? Maybe I need to *start* flying C*mmair! ;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, we don't *know* that. Figures please. -John (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Message-Id: <slrn83cdbc.bqp.cjc@...s.utk.edu> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) (...) Hunh? Rape ought to be a capital crime anyway, but if a rape victim, as in someone who is at that moment being raped, fights off her rapist and kills him in the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry about that. I figured it was a fairly accurate representation of what you said. (...) I agree, absolutely. (...) True. But I'd still like to see at least an attempt made to do it via the legislated channels first - mostly because of the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who doesn't? (...) Short answer: I dunno. That bit requires much further thought. (...) Yeah, it is. Jasper (25 years ago, 20-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) just (...) Here's a customer service horror story for you that has nothing to do with minimum wage. I'm at the airport in Scranton waiting in line at the ticket counter behing about four other people. There is ONE agent behing the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep. The current problems with incompetent low-brow labor have nothing to do with minimum wage, and everything to do with the job market. Employers have to hire anybody they can, and the situation is clearly demonstrating that not just anybody (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<38344C17.6EF@mindspring.com> <38355C1E.55A6BED2@eclipse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) It was not a kid. No I didn't bother to do anything about it. I doubt I would have been successefull. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wasn't meaning that wouldn't be lawsuit material in todays world. I was meaning it shouldn't be lawsuit material. At least in todays world of holdups etc. his actions were NOT unreasonable. He also never AIMED the gun at me (just made it (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<38344C17.6EF@mindspring.com> <FLFAC8.B34@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (...) Unfortuanately at that time I didn't have AAA. Now I do. I'm not sure that they would have gotten my car fixed (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you're going to quote me, please have the decency to do so accurately. I said "I wouldn't say that anyone (or everyone) should have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner." That statement means that I do not support a system of (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. Plans like Larry describes are common as dirt. (...) AAA+ will tow you up to 100 miles and costs about $90 per year. If you drive very much (I do) then it is well worth it. Even new cars can have problems. Chris (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wrong. (...) Yikes! (...) In what way was that not bright? I think you behaved correctly - unless you were overly aggressive. (...) Wow, that's pretty dramatic. I've been a clerk at a gas station and we had a button that called the cops in (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is funny, I have noticed that as well, in numerous places, where the people act like it is a right to have a job. The Meijer that I am working for at my second job is that way. The teenagers there do nothing as baggers, and they had to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<cross posted to off-topic-debate> (...) The last time I went to Gander Mountain, they had several revolvers for sale, along with semi-autos, and the usual hunting rifles. The one I was looking at was a Rueger (SP?) .357 Magnum. Nice gun. Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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<38344C17.6EF@mindspring.com> <FLFAC8.B34@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (...) We don't have very many widely available plans that generous. However, we DO have a number of plans that offer (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whew! Gosh gosh gosh, I don't know. I'm afraid I'm having difficulty keeping my knee-jerk response separate from my intellectual one. What if, in the earlier example, the rape victim fought off her attacker, and in the process killed him? Who, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Emphasis on the final sentence... (...) And *THAT* is an argument against minimum wage. I feel that as the minimum wage has went up, and as we've had labor shortages galore, the people we have working for minimum wage or just above in the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm curious. Just out of interest - don't you have anything in the States equivalent to the UK's AA or RAC? (You pay a fee - anything from about £40 ($60) per year upwards then whenever you break down anywhere, someone will come out to fix it. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pulling a bloody _gun_ on someone because you believe he may trying to cheat you out of a few dollars of gas is _not_ lawsuit material? Sheesh. And I thought you could sue for virtually anything (and epxect to win) in the US system.. ;) (...) (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He was proven guilty to you because you saw him. When was it that you said "I don't want to play judge, jury, and executioner"? Oh, right, four messages up. (...) I'd probably start off by grabbing a poker and trying to beat him senseless. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ^^^^ (...) Only is the key word here. In the case I was responding to, there were other options. At least, I read it as such. Jasper (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps I should have clarified what I did a little better. I didn't start out to cause a ruckus, but it is hard to be totally polite when you're tired and way past ready to be home and in bed. I think I started by pointing out in a reasonably (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, why did you cause such a ruckus at an attendant? If the hose was leaking, and there was a problem, I would have pointed it out in a polite manner, regardless if I had a really bad day or not. I would have stopped the pump, told the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think I'll drag out an example which by your legal code I suspect I would not be able to drag out because I would be dead... Several years ago, I was driving home from Thanksgiving, and had had a frustrating drive (try losing your alternator (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I'm having trouble getting my head into the space you're describing. Let me try a different example to see if I understand your position: Suppose someone is in the process of stabbing you in the chest with the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I meant that as a joke. I should have included emoticons ;-) (...) Well....I disagree. But he was proven guilty. He proved it to me by raping my wife. Under your world view, what would be the appropriate response to finding yourself in (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry, I wanted to write something, decided not to, and hit the wrong button. Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[cross posted to off-topic debate, drifting away from Star Wars again] (...) You know, this is a very ignorant attitude on censors and the like in regards to these situations. It seems that we are trying to disguise the real world from kids, so they (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's also good netiquette. (...) If you come home, find someone there, and shoot him, you have shot down an innocent man and therefore deserve to be punished. That is what "innocent until proven guilty" means. (...) The US. Socialist. Please, (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What else would I do on sunday nights? ;) (...) The longer I think about it (and speak to some slightly more hardcore libertarians over on other places), the harder it gets for me to distinguish (hardcore) libertarianism from anarchism. The (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry, I've been gone for a week. I had to go back and read what I was talking about to address this. (...) It's much easier for you to do what you want with it that way, right? (...) Well, first, it was kind of a flippant remark, and second, no. I (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, I understand. I picked up my copy of the IEAK 5 resource kit locally even though I knew I could get it for 25% less online, but I needed it sooner rather than later. Not the same maybe, but I've also bought things at a store knowing I (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Disclaimer: These views are my own and not necessarily those of market.shopping or loc.uk, they are also not directed towards any individuals - the message I'm responding to is just the latest! It is just a *teansy* bit irratating that there have (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I'm still poor, just not as poor as I was before. I WOULD shop at used book stores if I had the time. But it takes more time per title acquired than buying new. I STILL shop at used CD stores. (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, as far as a book that a publisher sells, this is entirely unenforcable to keep you from re-selling the book, at least in the United States thanks to the doctrine of "first sale". The relevant part of title 17 US CODE 109 (a) states: (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep, sort of like all those "Promotional Use Only" CDs and LPs floating around in used bins the world over that "legally" remain the property of the record companies and can't be resold. Doug (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow! I've never seen something like that. I guess you need to keep the book in a lock box (you would be in trouble if a thief stole the book since you have allowed it to circulate without the publisher's prior consent). I wonder if this (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean you don't shop at used book stores now that you aren't poor? Wow, I can't imagine, no matter how much money I have, ever not shopping at used book stores. Not that I don't buy new books (mostly off the net now) all the time as well (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So the used bookstore I bought my copy from (and the person who sold it to the store, I assume) were violating the terms of that "contract" ? Cute. Hardly enforcable, but cute. (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Jasper, stop trolling. :-) We've discussed what Libertarianism is and isn't in some depth, and you know darn well that it is not anarchy or anything like it. (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oooh, good catch. So that means all those used book stores are technically fencing goods obtained illegally (because the sellers weren't allowed to.) How did I miss that one? I used to shop at used book stores all the time back when I was (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Same thing. And just as silly. Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My unlimited email addresses scheme: vi /etc/alias;newaliases Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wouldn't this depend on the type of roommate situation? I'd say, if the only thing they have in common is the address, than sure, separate households. If they have a private room in the house, but share living quarters, then they're not. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if you want to get rid of it.. Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Intewrestingly, a vast majority of IP protected works do Not allow resale (without prior written consent from the publisher). From my copy of Asimov's Foundation: "This book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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