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Re: socialism etc. (was: Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
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Date: 
Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:21:14 GMT
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Frank Filz wrote:


Several years ago, I was driving home from Thanksgiving, and had had a
frustrating drive (try losing your alternator belt at 4:00 PM the
Saturday after Thanksgiving, with several hours of driving left, and the
rain pouring down - I was lucky, I found a store which had the belt, and
then talked a mechanic at another garage to "help" me put it on [he
really did all the work, I handed him wrenches]). When I was almost
home, I pulled into a service station to fill up my tank. As I was
pumping gas, I noticed that the hose had a serious leak.

I went into the building and demanded that they do something about it
(perhaps not the brightest, but remember what I'd gone through that
day).

Well, why did you cause such a ruckus at an attendant? If the hose was leaking,
and there was a problem, I would have pointed it out in a polite manner,
regardless if I had a really bad day or not. I would have stopped the pump, told
the attendant, and used another one. Unless there is something else that caused
you do so, which I suspect is the case.

The clerk, I suspect in sincere belief that I was trying
something, pulled his gun out, and said he was going to call the cops. I
said, by all means. Under your legal code, he probably would have been
justified in shooting me (after all, he had a sincere belief that I was
trying something funny).

Whose code? I don't think anyone here is implying that people can be instantly
killed for anything. That is why there are courts, etc.

Fortuanately our legal code doesn't allow vigilante justice, and
(usually) punishes it when it gets out of hand, and he was willing to
bring the police in on what was going on. I stayed in the building until
the cop showed up to make it clear I had no intention of running.

Was I being stupid - yes. Was I taking justified action - yes.

Justified action? If an attendant is dealing with an irate person, such as
yourself, going all out on that? I don't think so.

The service station had a serious hazard. Unfortuanatley I don't know if
they did anything about it. They sure didn't close the pump, even after
I showed the clerk and the cop the leak.


Well, that was the service stations fault, and there are institutions that deal
with that. I don't see any connection to execution over this, much less anyone
advocating vigilante justice or whatever.

Scott S.

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  Re: socialism etc. (was: Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Perhaps I should have clarified what I did a little better. I didn't start out to cause a ruckus, but it is hard to be totally polite when you're tired and way past ready to be home and in bed. I think I started by pointing out in a reasonably (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) It's also good netiquette. (...) If you come home, find someone there, and shoot him, you have shot down an innocent man and therefore deserve to be punished. That is what "innocent until proven guilty" means. (...) The US. Socialist. Please, (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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