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Subject: 
Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:44:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jasper Janssen writes:
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:23:49 GMT, Christopher Weeks
<clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote:
If I come home and find some guy raping my wife, and I shoot him, I
shouldn't be punished.  Not at all.  Now, it would be reasonable to
investigate to make sure that a rape was really in progress and not
something else.

If you come home, find someone there, and shoot him, you have shot
down an innocent man and therefore deserve to be punished. That is
what "innocent until proven guilty" means.

  Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I'm having trouble getting my head into
the space you're describing.  Let me try a different example to see if I
understand your position:
  Suppose someone is in the process of stabbing you in the chest with the
intent to end your life, and you have the means to stop him, but only by
killing him, and so you kill him.  Would you still label him innocent and
yourself guilty, and therefore deserving of punishment?  What if he kills you
and is never caught; is he "innocent?"
  If so, I must confess I would have difficulty living up the strictures of
such a society...

Just trying to come to terms with things,
  Dave!



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  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) ^^^^ (...) Only is the key word here. In the case I was responding to, there were other options. At least, I read it as such. Jasper (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) It's also good netiquette. (...) If you come home, find someone there, and shoot him, you have shot down an innocent man and therefore deserve to be punished. That is what "innocent until proven guilty" means. (...) The US. Socialist. Please, (...) (25 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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