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  Re: the LCD guys strike again :-)
 
(...) That's GREAT news! I have e-mailed Atilla about LMPL status but never got answer. Thanks Tim, Thanks Atilla, Damien (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: Problem with account
 
(...) Hi Bernd, Pleased to see you are so eager. At first i thought i have forgotten my password, but now we have to face reality: PT is not still alive. Damien (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Amy, nice to see a sense of humor to let a little of this pressure off ;^) I don't think LUGNET membership by itself is too much to ask. It won't do any good though unless LUGNET runs the voting and requires your lugnet password to cast a (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) This last suggestion sounds like having a membership packet. I like the idea of having a membership package, possibly packaged with a CD of current LDraw editors, tools, library, (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) I got friends. I therefore got lots of drivers licenses :-) (...) Obviously I'll have to show up in person at 1 Ldraw Plaza to submit some DNA :-) (...) Humor? And to demonstrate that creating multiple means of verification may defeat the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDRAW.org is back ... kinda
 
I noticed that the LDraw.org site is back up, and looking good. However, when I try to do nearly anything through the Parts Tracker, it prompts me for a CGI username and password. Any idea when this part of the site will be accessible to the public (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) OK, so you favor requireing a drivers license or something else more stringent then? Or restricting it to just LUGNET members only? or what? And you're OK if you go to 0 votes if any two of these are discovered to be the same when probed? What (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) LOL, that's kind of like saying, "Did I mention that I loathe Microsoft?" (Hmmm... You probably say that too..) AutoCAD is the 300lb gorilla of CAD. (...) Of course you're correct. But keep in mind CAD software was written to do a specific job (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Switching from BITMAP/JPEG to PNG
 
(...) That's what I thought too, but it actually takes up to 48-bit color and 16 bit grayscale images. (URL)With all that said I agree that .PNG only support is fine, there are many (...) Exactly my thoughts. PNG-only support will simplify the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Lemme see... 1) Amy Hughes 2) lugnews@IXNAYONTHEAM...hughes.org 3) lugnet # 928 and 1) Nancy Drew 2) ndrew@NYETSPAMthelor...houses.com (yep, that's me) 3) gimme a week or so to create and use an FBTB account and 1) Fred Smith 2) (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Translating MLCad
 
Hi, you are right - this is a bug. I better change that in the next version, because there are already several language files available. Michael "Robert Seifert" <seifrob@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HE1o4q.1GI9@lugnet.com... (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Just to get people thinking, since maybe we're stuck... try this strawman To be an ldraw.org member, you have to supply 3 things, all of which are retained in a DB for validation (but not made public) 1. your real name 2. a working email (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) OK, would that be sufficient? Only LUGNET(tm) members can be members? Is that too exclusionary? It's certainly simple enough. If it IS too exclusionary, what scheme would you suggest for those potential members who are not LUGNET members? (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Why not? ldraw.org would presumably be (by Bylaws provision) banned from selling the info, and would presumably be bound to take all reasonable care with the information. Those restrictions (which would take a lot of work to ever change, by (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) I completely agree with Jennifer. As I stated before, we're not running State elections we're voting for a hobby organization. The problem about false votes has been blown way out a proportion. It may be a problem if we had 1000's of people (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: lsynth install trouble
 
With respect to 1), maybe you can temporarily give install rights to the non-administrator, install the program, and rescind the rights? Just a potential work-around for 1). Marlon "Excelerator" Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com "Amy Hughes" (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Switching from BITMAP/JPEG to PNG
 
(...) That's because your machine needed to uncompress the PNG (unlike BMPs), and it had more information in it than a JPG, I believe. (...) BMPs are not compressed on disk - which is why they are huge to begin with, and compress to very very small. (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: Switching from BITMAP/JPEG to PNG
 
(...) I don't necessarily object because I can completely see where you are coming from. I will say though that recently in working with PNG in Photoshop, the PNG images took MUCH longer for Photoshop to deal with them. I'm not sure what was going (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: The big question
 
(...) I like the idea of 'centralized LDraw resources', a webpage where you can find a list of all software available and help organize discussions for standards and additions to the library (doing a great with the updates). Everything else will (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
I agree with Jennifer on this one. It is out of the question as a validation mechanism for me. Kevin (...) am (...) needs (...) or (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) the fact the LDraw.org isn't a commercial entity is completely irrelavent in this case. (...) I would actually be worried about STORING that kind of information on the server. Even for the people who didn't care. Like someone else has posted (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Significance of stud orientation
 
(...) Do you mean like this?? (URL) I could have misunderstood that completely, though. James. (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) The idea of personally identifiable information is indeed a sensitive one, and I recognize that. In fact, I'm a privacy freak myself - when it comes to commercial entities. The reason I included it in the recap/call for more brainstorming is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
Quoting Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com>: (...) I didn't speak up last time because 1) someone else already had and 2) I thought maybe it would die. This seemed like a recap of ideas more than a brainstorming to me, so since it wasn't off (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) OK, your feelings are noted, at least by me, but I do think we haven't gotten all the possibilities developed yet. I tend to personally favor not working TOO hard to antispoof, but I'll stand by what I said, you may be inadvertantly stifling (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
Quoting Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com>: (...) I wasn't brainstorming. I was expressing my opinion. I was expressing it as strongly as I thought was appropriate given how strongly I felt about it. I am not only concerned with myself about (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) This could be extremely difficult for the college and high school students who are involved with LDraw. High schoolers don't pay utility bills at all (and some don't have IDs until they're 18), and a large number of college students live in (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) In a scenario where multiple mechanisms are on offer, you yourself might not ever need to use it, as you'd have several other paths available. But more importantly, until we've a consensus on what level of validation is appropriate, I'd rather (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) I'd lean towards is. I'm more inclined to trust people than not to trust people, then again, that might be my weakness. (...) Yeah, sorry. One person I know signed up twice cause he thought it had something to do with news posting. Not a (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
Quoting Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com>: (...) This seems like it might be difficult. (...) This seems fair to me, but not seem that way to non-lugnet members. (...) I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE this. I also oppose having to enter my credit card number in (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) this still allows stuffing by someone at level 1 - someone you met once, and therefor know exists. He can "know" many many people, and you have no way of verifying if they do exist. This might be an acceptable risk, I don't know. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Ok. (...) I can accept this. There are several possible verification systems. I think we should use several, to make it easy for as many people as possible. Ultimately though, the onus should be on the applicant to prove his/her identity, (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) I think easily spoofed votes are unacceptable. Especially in the initial phase of the org, when we're electing the board. (...) I'd say first get the org running, and then worry about encouraging more participation. Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) (URL) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) We've seen quite a few good (and some overboard) suggestions in this thread so far. Lar, you wrote in another message: (...) Yep. I think the right question to ask here is: Would you rather be absolutely sure everyone who votes is unique, (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) could you post the link to it? I think it'd be a good thing to allow people to read it. Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Problem with account
 
(...) The parts tracker is still offline, as all the data before the crash hasn't been restore to it, and there are some more configuration changes to be made. We are working to get it back up. Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Problem with account
 
Hi all, nice to see Ldraw online again. But I noticed that you need an account to use the tracker. This wouldn't be a problem if I could use my account. I tried to login with my username and password but nothing happens. I mailed Steve but getting (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Significance of stud orientation
 
(...) Perhaps when authors go back to BFC old parts, they should also correct the stud orientations. I've made a conscious effort to do new parts with correct stud orientations, but as you say later, it may not be worth the effort. (...) 3822s01 is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
(...) Makes sense. > (putting my flame resistant suit on.) No need. Play well, Jacob (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Status for the LDraw.org server
 
(...) Now Munin is finally back on-line (since Thursday) and with a correctly configured Apache (since this morning). Right now some people will end up at Peeron and some people on Munin, when they go to the web site <www.ldraw.org>. This will (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Significance of stud orientation
 
(...) Sounds sensible. (...) I would certainly appreciate it. But I don't think parts will be rejected from inclusion in the official parts library just because the studs aren't oriented correctly. I have a vague recollection of having noticed that (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: new user installation summary
 
(...) ... (...) GRRRR! Actually, I'll happily take that criticism =8D ... Here come the excu ... cough! ... explanations: wordiness and redundancy are, at least in part, a side effect of reaching out to all audiences: beginners, regular users and (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: new user installation summary
 
(...) LPub isn't finding POV-Ray. I'm working on the assumption that it's looking specifically for 3.1 and I have 3.5 installed. I'm going to install 3.1 in the coming days. LSynth isn't finding its own install directory. This may have something to (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: megapov install trouble
 
(...) Thanks, Ahui. I think installing 3.1 may solve my MEGAPov and LPub trouble. I'll give that a try. And if all else fails I'll start my entire system from scratch (it exists to do ldraw stuff, so that's not a problem), eliminating the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Translating MLCad
 
Hi there. Is there a bug in language template DLL? In dialog "Spring generator" (ID_SPRING) or something like that there are labels Bottom (B) and Top (T) switched. When you run MLCad and change "bottom" number, sample spring in preview window (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD Drag and Drop Stacking
 
(...) Hi Matt, There is no automatic stacking mechanism. There is nothing to prevent two parts that can't overlap in the real world from overlapping the LDraw world. You have to place the bricks *exactly* where you want them. Kevin (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: new user installation summary
 
(...) Hi Amy, I'm Kevin Clague, one of the authors of the Power Tools books, and the author of LPub and LSynth. I'm sorry that things didn't work for you right out of the shoot. Folks tell me that installing the whole package off the power tools CD (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Significance of stud orientation
 
Hey, I have a question about the significance of stud orientation. Many parts created before stud logos were introduced (and some parts even created afterwards) have different orientation compared to the real part. (I know back then the orientation (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: megapov install trouble
 
Hi Amy, I'm the LDraw Help Desk Coordinator, If you want an "all-in-one" installer I recommend you read and download this file: (URL) on the installer link and note that this page is a mirror ldraw page) MEGAPov does not play nice with POV-Ray 3.5 (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) use mlcad at peeron dot com Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) Sure, I'm not an expert, but I'm enthusiastic : ) My email's in the headers and not spam-proofed. -JSM (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) Yep. I've actually written code to convert between several of these and they don't really fit the bill : ( The ones that are commonly used are proprietary and these kinds of programs typically need workstation-level computing power to work (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: New parts and question about metal parts
 
(...) Hi Niels. These two parts are in the Parts Tracker: they made it in shortly before LDraw.org went down for maintenence. I used the fire logo subfile (used with the hose holder) with the door 1 x 3 x 1 subfile. I forget who made these parts (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: the LCD guys strike again :-)
 
(...) Whoops, I mean "Computing." That's what I get for not double checking. -Tim XFUT -> cad.dev (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub install trouble
 
(...) I'm just guessing here but didn't MegaPOV previously have a dependency on POV 3.1 and didn't work right with 3.5? I dunno because I don't use it. (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  the LCD guys strike again :-)
 
Everyone - Not too long ago, Atilla La'ng emailed me some more documents he has written based on the original LDraw Connection Database (LCD) document: www.ldraw.org/refere...specs/lcd/ You can find them at: (URL) "Sofware," and they are listed on (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: lsynth install trouble
 
(...) or I'll get them from the parts tracker when it's up. (URL) also for the suggestion to go to POV-Ray 3.1. I'll give that a try. Thanks, Amy (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: lsynth install trouble
 
(...) This is probably a problem in the distrubution. Did you get it from the book or from my website (URL) of these parts are modified version of parts of a similar name, in that they remove the short little cable stub provided. I run on Win2K, but (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LPub install trouble
 
(...) I'd recommend using 3.1 for now. There are a number of issues with LPub and 3.5 Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) I didn't really like the LEOCAD interface much. Also MLCAD seems much more advanced, with stuff such as hose and minifig generator. As for the cheering, at that time I was working on a MOC, ran out of bricks and put myself to the Wine/MLCAD (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) You can use javanree (at) vanree.net , no worries. (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD Drag and Drop Stacking
 
(...) Make sure they are aligned in all three views. If the studs show, though you've placed them without space between in the Y-direction, make sure they are aligned in the Z-direction. Amy (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  new user installation summary
 
Okay, I'm new to ldraw stuff, and fairly inexperienced on the PC (I'm a Mac person, and a Unix geek by prefession). I built a PC specifically for ldraw stuff. Here's a summary of my progress... I installed ldraw and mlcad according to instructions (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  New parts and question about metal parts
 
As the weather was rainy almost all weekend, I did a lot of LDrawing. Several new parts can be found (and seen) on my website: (URL) last parts I have been working on are: - Brick 1 x 2 with Small SHELL logo Pattern - Door 1 x 3 x 1 Left with Fire (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  MLCAD Drag and Drop Stacking
 
Dear Micheal Lachmann, Hey I was wondering how to stack bricks on the MLCad, whenever I drag them over they just overlap eachother. Thanks Matt C. (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)  
 
  LPub install trouble
 
I've installed LPub, and like my unsuccessful megapov installation, it can't find the POV-Ray registry entry... "Cannot find POV-Ray installation entries" "You must install POV-Ray before running LPub" I've installed POV-Ray 3.5 and it works fine. (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) Jason: There are lots of 3D formats out there; some proprietary, some semi-proprietary, and some completely open. Besides the 3D game folks, there are the 3D art programs (e.g. 3D Studio Max) and the 3D CAD/CAM folks (e.g. AutoCAD.) Each area (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  megapov install trouble
 
When I try to launch megapov (which I've installed in my pov-ray bin directory) I get the following error: cannot find Home entry in registry. This entry should have been set by the installation program. If you did not install using the correct (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
Xantra47, Dan Boger, Jan-Alert van Ree I take your descriptions, insert them into a web-page as they are. Do you have any public useable email addresses where users can write to if they have troubles? Otherwice I would take that of your (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: lsynth install trouble
 
(...) Now I know. It gives the same "can't find" error when I try to synthesize a part. Thanks, Amy (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: lsynth install trouble
 
(...) Hmm... can't help you here (...) Yhe parts are probably unofficial parts from the Parts Tracker. Since the Parts Tracker is currently unavailable you go and get them. Maybe somebody who has them can Email them to you. -Orion (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  lsynth install trouble
 
I installed Lsynth as administrator (as I must do) on my w2k Pro system. I'm having two problems... 1) As a non-administrator user running Lsynth I get a dialog that says "Unable to find lsynth install directory!". I don't have this problem as (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  I want to make and inventory off my LEGO and I have an idea
 
I tryed to make an inventory of all parts of all models listed in my inventory so far lets say 6 models but Briktrack doesn't show all parts of any or all models. What's wrong? What software or way is best to do this without building all my LEGO (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
In lugnet.cad, Damien Guichard writes: <snip> (...) The reason for this is that in order to figure out a 2nd generation spec that will be backward compatible with the 1st generation spec we have to fully document what the 1st generation spec is, (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: minifig arm
 
(...) Thanks. It is, indeed, the new ones I have. They don't fit flush at the shoulders and they overlap the body near the elbow, but this may be fixable with a rotation. I'll see how the minifig generator assembles them after I've finished this (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) I've marked up all I can see that needs to be tweaked up to this point. If anyone wants to have a look at what I have, please email me or post here, and I'll mail it to you. I don't want to post yet another revision, just to revise it again, (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) No flames here. Go for it. (...) What project you take on in what form is up to you, but perhaps before branching off to something totally new, you could consider getting involved with the topic of LDraw file format standards? Maybe you could (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) Hi Jason, Sure there is much discussion about standardization of "1st generation" LDraw file format and nothing about a "2nd generation" file format that would break compatibility. Using only these 5 bricks i have built 30+ lego animals: * (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Error in part 3867.dat? (Baseplate 16 x 16)
 
(...) Mine is also correct. Damien (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: minifig arm
 
(...) Yes, and if you are complete you have both. 981.dat and 982.dat are the newer ones in the book, they appear when loading a recent file and when using MLCad v3.0 minifig generator. 975.dat and 976.dat are the obsolete ones that appear when (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) My vote is for MD3. Heres why: Discreet (makers of 3ds max) released a special version called Gmax. Gmax is designed as a way to make new graphics for games and can only save to its own special format (*.gmax) and can only export via special (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
Probably : ( I used the RPM and I'm still kind of a Linux Newbie : ) (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) Yeah that's why I included it, but IMHO human readable isn't a big deal if we take advantage of the existing tools. Milkshape with "extra" features like LCD (Lego Connection Database) Tags could be quite workable though.... (...) Cool and (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) Im not sure about md2, obj or md3, but at least milkshape is human readable. unfortunately, It doesn't support include files like ldraw .dat files do. I like the idea of extending the ldraw format to include the features you outlined. -Chuck (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  minifig arm
 
I'm working my way through the LEGO Software Power Tools book (I'm new to MLCAD) and I notice the minifig arms illustrated in the book are different than the ones I have available. The ones in the book are tapered nicely, while mine aren't, and they (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Primitives with different BFC winding
 
It's been a rainy day here, so did a lot of LDrawing ;-) Today I found out how to use cyls and cyls2 primitives :-) I created, updated and finished a few parts. Making my parts BFC compliant I noticed that several primitives of the same class have (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) Jusr read the Wine documentation, it appears having people use the ./tools/wineinstall script in the wine source directory is the recommended way to install Wine, instead of my description. (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Error in part 3867.dat? (Baseplate 16 x 16)
 
Niels Karsdorp <nkp.nkp@hetnet.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HDy23o.vqI@lugnet.com... (...) I have a correct 3867.dat in my library. If others have else a correct one then it must be an error in your part. CU Bernd (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) OK quick rundown. Required: - Working Linux system with X11+windowmanager installed (I use KDE only, but any windowmanager should work) Also check (URL) for other requirements wine itself has (gcc etc etc) I chose to work with the Wine source (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) Perhaps Wine wasn't set up properly? I downloaded the 20030408 CVS release, did a generic ./configure | make | sudo make install , while logged in as regular user. (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Error in part 3867.dat? (Baseplate 16 x 16)  [DAT]
 
When I started to create a model using the baseplates 3867, I noticed a stud missing. Digging into the file I found the cause: Line 244 said: 1 16 150 0 -13071 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 stud.dat And this needs to be 1 16 150 0 -130 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 stud.dat (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
I wasn't sure if it'd work that way, but appearently it does : ) (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while and I'd like to throw it out for discussion. I think the ldraw specification needs to evolve in order to take the great work that James started and make it into the "toy" that everyone really (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: The big question
 
I want to preface my answer with a few thoughts. I've seen what amazing potential these tools have in all aspects of the LEGO hobby. People from all over the world have written me talking about how they have applied LDraw to what they do. Whether (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: A New LDraw editor.
 
(...) Well, I gave it the largest file I had (1526 parts) and it froze up on me. I stepped back a bit and gave it a file with 398 parts. This rendered fine but I did notice some rotation errors. -Orion (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
 
  The big question
 
No, I'm not getting married. ;-) All of this LDraw standards and organization talk has gotten me thinking...about LDraw.org and it's mission, if you will. So I'd like to throw out a question: What do you think LDraw.org's role is in the LDraw/LEGO (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
(...) why use winzip? most linux installs come with zip/unzip! so on my redhat 7.2, all I did was - download mlcad. - download the dats - unzip dats - unzip mlcad - run "wine MLCAD.EXE" (...) huh - I was running it as a non-root user. Odd. Dan (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: MLCAD for Linux :D
 
Pretty much, just install wine, then use it to install winzip. use wine to unpack the ldraw parts. run winzip under wine to unzip mlcad run mlcad under wine : ) There are some functions that don't work even with the latest version of Wine, but (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: A New LDraw editor.
 
Thanks for the feedback. If you have the time give it a file with a couple of hundred parts. I don't know what it will do. Should just work but slowly. If you do please let me know what happens. Good or bad its all useful. Thanks again --Dan. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)


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