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Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
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Sun, 27 Apr 2003 01:17:59 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Jason S. Mantor writes:
I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while and I'd like
to throw it out for discussion.
I think the ldraw specification needs to evolve in order to take the
great work that James started and make it into the "toy" that everyone
really wants it to be. We all want programs that can spin and animate
large assemblies of parts, in glorious detail, in real time.  We want
bricks to snap together and we want gears to slide onto shafts.  We want
to be able to work with our parts in whatever modeling program we feel
like.  Unfortunately the current file format isn't capable of this and
probably won't ever be : (

So what would we want in a new file format ?  Here's a short list
1.  Easy upgrade path (convert the current parts easily)
2.  Fast rendering
3.  Cross-Platform portablity
4.  Supported by common modellers/renders
5.  Human Readable/Editable
6.  Capable of animation
7.  supports "mating" of parts
8.  supports texture/material mapping

What existing formats come close ?
Md2 (Quake II)
Milkshape
OBJ
Md3 (Quake III)

Here's my crazy Idea:  We should choose one of the formats above or
something simmilar and start converting the existing parts to work with
it.  We'll get better performance, more tools, and more features without
having to re-invent the wheel.  My personal preference would be to
convert to md2 in the short term and md3 down the road.

OK, Begin Flaming : P

Hi Jason,

Sure there is much discussion about standardization of "1st generation"
LDraw file format and nothing about a "2nd generation" file format that
would break compatibility.

Using only these 5 bricks i have built 30+ lego animals:
* 3001.dat
* 3002.dat
* 3003.dat
* 3003PE1.dat
* 6215.dat

See http://membres.lycos.fr/brickcaster/ (download ldraw files)

So one can experience new part formats with little effort, only 5 parts to
convert as a start.

Damien



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) No flames here. Go for it. (...) What project you take on in what form is up to you, but perhaps before branching off to something totally new, you could consider getting involved with the topic of LDraw file format standards? Maybe you could (...) (22 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
In lugnet.cad, Damien Guichard writes: <snip> (...) The reason for this is that in order to figure out a 2nd generation spec that will be backward compatible with the 1st generation spec we have to fully document what the 1st generation spec is, (...) (22 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)

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  Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while and I'd like to throw it out for discussion. I think the ldraw specification needs to evolve in order to take the great work that James started and make it into the "toy" that everyone really (...) (22 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)

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