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Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
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Thu, 1 May 2003 00:33:36 GMT
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Quoting out of the original order:

In lugnet.cad, Xanthra47 wrote:

OK, Begin Flaming : P

Flaming?  Well, you should go research LDraw II, now that Jacob's server is back
online.

What existing formats come close ?
Md2 (Quake II)
Milkshape
OBJ
Md3 (Quake III)

How do these formats do with the number of triangles normally found in an LDraw
model?  My impression is that these formats (and their rendering engines) normally
deal with far fewer triangles/quads than LDraw.

So what would we want in a new file format ?  Here's a short list
1.  Easy upgrade path (convert the current parts easily)
2.  Fast rendering
3.  Cross-Platform portablity
4.  Supported by common modellers/renders
5.  Human Readable/Editable
6.  Capable of animation
7.  supports "mating" of parts
8.  supports texture/material mapping

Here's some features of LDraw I'd like to see retained:

1. Simple language for people new to 3D graphics.

Hmm, I guess that's the only one. :)

Here's my crazy Idea:  We should choose one of the formats above or
something simmilar and start converting the existing parts to work with
it.  We'll get better performance, more tools, and more features without
having to re-invent the wheel.  My personal preference would be to
convert to md2 in the short term and md3 down the road.

Go for it.  Do md2 or md3 support lines?

Steve



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  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) That's my impression also. They seem to be oriented towards (relatively) lower polygon counts, and increased usage of textures. They use the textures to achieve the details so that they don't need to bog down the system with more vertices and (...) (22 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet news:5iq0bvciiurtrj7...4ax.com... (...) Don't forget the 'infinite recursion' of LDRAW files - a line in a 'time script file' could refer to a whole scene in a 'scene file' where one line (...) (22 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
(...) I suppose Steve is talking about: (URL) I am not sure I believe in this project myself anymore (except for for parts files - maybe). My current darling is to make a _building-oriented_ file format. I wrote some notes about it at some point, (...) (22 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.cad)

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  Crazy, OK Heretical Idea ...
 
I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while and I'd like to throw it out for discussion. I think the ldraw specification needs to evolve in order to take the great work that James started and make it into the "toy" that everyone really (...) (22 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad)

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