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Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
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Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:47:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:

Additionally (though not
conclusively) I've heard the point put forth most vehemently by
conservative pundits, who conveniently interpret the results in a way that
favors >Republican administrations.

Well I have heard the same thing from liberals favoring Democratic
admistrations that is why I tend to accept it moreso than not.

  But have you heard Democratic administrations using the apparent ten-year
delay as evidence of the strength of their own policies (ie, those that come to
fruition during Republican administrations) or to commend Republicans for
enacting policies that bear fruit during later Democratic administrations?  My
point is that, if the ten-year-swing is used by both parties equally to praise
themselves and to malign their opponents, then the ten-year-swing is no good
indicator of anything.

   Additionally, the Reagan tax cut preceded a huge deficit that can't be
readily blamed on Carter.  Should we blame Ford and Nixon instead?  Also, if
the economy makes a massive recovery in 2005, is Dubya going to say "Thank
Bill Clinton" or

No.

is he going to claim success of his reward-the-rich stimulus package?

Well duh.

  But that's my point!  Dubya (or at least his supporters) blame Clinton for
current economic woes because, alledgly, the impact of Clinton's policies is
only now being seen (due to the 10-year-swing).  But if we experience an
economic turnaround, then Dubya (et al) will claim victory for the
reward-the-rich package, even though it'll be far too early (by their own
calculations) to make determinations about such policies!
  Interestingly, early in Dubya's appointment, he asserted that he wouldn't
resort to blaming previous administrations for problems during his tenure.
However, soon after 9/11, elements of his administration were blaming it on
intelligence failures during Clinton's administration, just as elements have
blamed (and are still blaming) subsequent economic woes on Clinton.  This, from
the man who claimed that he would restore dignity and integrity to the
Whitehouse.

"The buck stops somewhere else." -- George W. Bush.

     Dave!



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  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I haven't heard anyone using the ten-year-trail other than economics teachers period. In that context it makes sense, outside that context is anyones guess. (...) I haven't acctually heard anyone saying that. (...) That is because most people (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Oh absolutely. (...) Well I have heard the same thing from liberals favoring Democratic admistrations that is why I tend to accept it moreso than not. (...) No. (...) Well duh. (...) Unfortunatly I really never figured that part out. Maybe (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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