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Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
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Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:07:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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We may never know the results of the pre-emptive deposing of SH, but I’d
rather be a little safe than sorry.
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So instead of having an honest justification -- since you have never been
able to provide even a single bit of evidence to connect SH, AQ, and/or OBL
-- you’d rather just invade countries within the world of Islam? Yeah,
that’s not anything like stirring up a hornets’ nest is it?
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It is time that all of the world’s tinpot leaders get the message that
supporting terrorism and terrorists will lead to their ruin.
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I’d have said “off foreign leaders” but we have failed at both attempts so
far by all available evidence. And at least one of these dudes is a striking
looking individual carrying a dialysis machine!
Yeah, these measures are so effective. ::cough:: quagmire! ::cough::
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If you or anyone else on the left has any better ideas about how to address
this threat, I’d love to hear it.
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I have done so before, but am reluctant to do so again for the lamest
participant on this board who has rarely if ever provided even the tiniest
shred of evidence to even partially justify his paranoid and xenophobic
views.
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You rant from your ivory tower, but in fact you have no plausible solutions
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Asked and answered “no-evidence-man.”
Lessening american interference in many world affairs would be a start, in my
humble opinion. I submit that running around policing everyone else in the
world while we simultaneously commit atrocity after atrocity isn’t gaining us
any credibility on the world scene.
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That may have been good advice 200 years ago, but the world is a smaller place
today. There is no more possibility of isolationism anymore. We have a global
economy; the ruin of one affects the others. Further, it is never our intent to
run around “policing everyone”-- just running around protecting our interests
from those who would choose to destroy our way of life.
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That’s a good answer for anyone that is not obsessed with Israel. Me, I
don’t give a damn if the Palestinians and the Israelis engage in a mutual
genocide pact. I mean, it would be sad -- but at the end of the day I’d
rather make fewer enemies by not taking sides.
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Good example. Do you doubt for 1 second that if we withdrew support of Israel
and the Arabs decided to launch an all-out assault her, she wouldn’t nuke the
living crap out of them? And your isolationist policy would bring such a
conflict about, and a nuclear one at that! Our support of Israel actually is a
stabilizing effect over there.
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I’d rather a thousand instances of my uncertainty, nay-saying, doubt, and
inaction than the actual results of your
psycho-apocalyptic-Xtian-manifest-destiny nonsense.
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You attitude is the wet dream of a terrorists. Inaction enboldens terrorism;
uncertainty strengthens terrorist resolve; doubt leads to capitulation. Your
path would lead us to ruin. You would rather absorb a nuclear attack rather
than pre-emptively trying to disarm those who would attack us in such a manner?
Fine. I guess we just agree to disagree on that issue. But I’ll say this-- I’d
bet my LEGO collection that your POV isn’t shared by the overwhelming majority
of Americans-- right or left.
We are the most powerful nation on the earth. What is so wrong with wielding
that power to spread the concepts of freedom and liberty? We didn’t invent
them; they are inalienable rights for everyone. It would be evil to allow
others to suffer under the tyranny of oppression while burying our collective
head in the sands of indifference.
JOHN
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