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Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
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Sat, 12 Jul 2003 03:11:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
Well from all 3 Economics classes I have taken through high school and
college all three teachers/professers have stated that a President and
Congress's effect on the economy shows up about 10 years after the fact.
Sort of a catch 22, the government gets credited or blamed for their
predeccessors actions. By the time what they themselves have done comes to
fruition someone else gets the credit or blame.

  We have to be careful about that kind of assertion, though, because it's
after-the-fact and is succeptible to tremendous spin.

Oh absolutely.

Additionally (though not
conclusively) I've heard the point put forth most vehemently by conservative
pundits, who conveniently interpret the results in a way that favors >Republican administrations.

Well I have heard the same thing from liberals favoring Democratic admistrations
that is why I tend to accept it moreso than not.

  Additionally, the Reagan tax cut preceded a huge deficit that can't be
readily blamed on Carter.  Should we blame Ford and Nixon instead?  Also, if
the economy makes a massive recovery in 2005, is Dubya going to say "Thank
Bill Clinton" or

No.

is he going to claim success of his reward-the-rich stimulus package?

Well duh.

I admit that I haven't had too much formal education in economics, but I
haven't heard much to support the 10-year-delay other than wishful thinking.
That's not a refutation, of course, but I'd like more detail.
  For example, why do they pick 10 years?  And on what basis do they identify
the causative relationship?

Unfortunatly I really never figured that part out. Maybe they (the teachers)
never explained it. They did explain that most people are completly ignorant of
this tendancy and how in good economic times people are far less likely to vote
whereas in bad economic times people vote by the droves. Go figure.

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
I know, I know bad form replying to myself. (...) The federal budget is not the same thing as the national economy. -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 12-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) But have you heard Democratic administrations using the apparent ten-year delay as evidence of the strength of their own policies (ie, those that come to fruition during Republican administrations) or to commend Republicans for enacting (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) We have to be careful about that kind of assertion, though, because it's after-the-fact and is succeptible to tremendous spin. Additionally (though not conclusively) I've heard the point put forth most vehemently by conservative pundits, who (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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