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Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
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Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:02:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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White House ‘lied about Saddam threat’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4709366,00.html
My other question is this: why is this such big news everywhere else, but
not in the U.S.? Blair is in a world of **** back in his country, why is
Shrub so comfortable here?
Seriously, when are we going to wake up and smell the corruption?
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Tell you what froggy, if you want GWB thrown out, why not take a page from
the California playbook. Obviously you feel very strongly that Bush has not
been a good president, and your feelings run very deep. Why not start a
campaign to recall the man, or if there is an existing campaign, offer to
help in some way.
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I know of no mechanism for the voters to recall the president of the United
States. Impeachment seems to be the only legal recourse. Yes, no?
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Here in California we have a man who is possibly the worst governor in US
history, definitely the worst governor in California in a decade. The gumby
looking Joe “Gray” Davis has a 20% approval rating. Several concerned
citizens have united in a recall effort, and just this week they announced
that they had gathered the 1.2 million signatures required to get the recall
measure on the ballot. I personally have not seen California voters as
excited about anything in a long time; the rumor that Arnold Schwarzenegger
might run for the job hasn’t hurt.
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Considering the long history of the United States, are you sure you wish to
typify Gray Davis as the worst governor ever of all 50 states? If you don’t
wish to reconsider, please compare and contrast why you feel that Gray is worse
than the next two worst (please note: it is not enough to say that Gray sucks,
which is something not in dispute g).
On the actual recall front: more signatures were gathered denouncing the recall
than the recall petition gathered. The whole recall procedure has been
thoroughly abused by the republican party (see Brulte’s numerous purges via
recall of his own party). The most favored person to replace the right of
center Davis? Diane Feinstein. Republicans may rue the day they launched this.
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So in between your surfing of anti-Republican websites, and foreign news
organizations fairly biased against the US, you might help organize a
national recall campaign. Then you could truly see how many like minded
Americans there are. I imagine you may be disappointed to find that many
support the current administration. You could also wait until next November
when GWB is up for reelection, but seeing the amount of campaign dollars he
has collected in spite of a silly campaign finance reform law, and seeing how
little money the Democrat hopefuls have collected, I dare to say you may be
disappointed then too.
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Ummmm, Bush lost the last election (since we are talking about the electorate
and not the Electoral College). I wouldn’t call that support.
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As to your article, I must have missed the shift of responsibility, when did
it become the coalitions responsibility to prove Hussein had WMD’s? We know
he had them, he admitted to having them, then failed to adequately prove what
had happened to them. Neither the US or UN ever doubted that he once had
WMDs, the only question was what happened to them. Hussein never properly
accounted for them, and US intelligence picked up suspicious behavior during
Hussein’s cat and mouse games with the UN, basically forcing the resulting
military action. So maybe US intelligence wasn’t 100% accurate, that does not
change Hussein’s non-compliance with the cease fire he signed after the first
gulf war, or all those UN resolutions.
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It’s real simple: either Saddam didn’t prove that he didn’t have them because in
fact he did (in which case we would have found them by now), or he didn’t prove
he didn’t have them because Dubya refused to accept that Saddam didn’t show them
he didn’t have them because he didn’t have anything to show (i.e. he didn’t have
them). Perforce, Dubya has to prove his case to justify the cost and lives of
the war. He hasn’t. So now the question is he an idiot who simply yelled wolf,
or a liar who yelled wolf, or are those elusive WoMD hiding somewhere but
somehow are still not being used?
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But what do I know, I want the Terminator to be my next governor,
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A mindless robot: ahhhhhh, Brulte’s perfect lock-step puppet! :-)
I can hear it now, each election year, “I’ll be Bach!”
-->Bruce<--
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