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Re: Proposed changes to MOTM Submission guidelines
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
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Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:29:07 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 03:31:22PM +0000, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > I disagree. While they may not have been the decision makers (and
> > again, who is/are the decision maker or makers?) to dismiss their
> > opinions is, well, dismissive.
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> Opinions voiced in a private discussion ARE irrelavent once the
> discussion goes public.
That's unjustified (as in, you haven't justified that view, merely stated it)
and dismissive and not really a good attitude to take, in my view.
> If the owners of the opinions want to share
> them, they're welcome to do so (and have!).
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> > The statement about discussion was presented to show that this wasn't
> > some idea that Orion just sprung on LDraw but rather one that did get
> > some considerable discussion first.
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> I wouldn't call 17 messages, mostly by you,
um, 6 out of 17
(see http://mail.peeron.com/pipermail/ldraw-content/2004-January/thread.html )
isn't really "mostly". It might be a plurality but it's way less than mostly.
> in a span of less than 15 hours
My last message to that list counseled that we wait a bit longer, by the way, so
I'm with you there.
> "considerable discussion".
How many messages would satisfy you as "considerable"? 20? 50? 100? 1000?
I'm comfortable with those message as being considerable in scope, a wide
variety of issues were discussed, as anyone can review for themselves, since the
archives of the list are public. But more importantly, it's not the number, it's
the content that is the measure of considerableness, in my view. Focusing on the
number suggests that you may not have read them closely.
Further, I think the talk to build ratio here is already way off the scale and
you're making it worse. ("build" in this context meaning making the changes...
fortunately all this talk talk isn't going to impede Orion making them)
> I think mentioning it gave the
> impression of "we already decided, and just wanted to let you know".
I don't think that at all. I certainly know it wasn't my intent. Further, I
think you saying so is not very pro community in my view at all, you're
impugning the motives of the participants, and I would ask you to reconsider
such statements.
However I am expecting a post soon from Orion saying "I have now decided and
this is how it's going to be"... which will be a good thing.
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