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Re: Proposed changes to MOTM Submission guidelines
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
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Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:05:27 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Don Heyse wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> > > > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger wrote:
> > > > > If someone chooses not to participate in the contest because they
> > > > > can't/won't release the DAT, what's the loss for LDraw?
> >
> > > I found this question somewhat surprising, frankly.
> >
> > Why? If they don't want to publish the DAT, they can still enter
> > the Scene categrory, because that's all you get without the DAT
> > file, one view of the model (AKA a scene). My personal favorite
> > part of lugnet is clicking on the DAT links and spining the model
> > around in a viewer to examine it from all sides. Maybe even step
> > through it, one part at a time. That's what a model is to me.
> > Anything else is just a picture.
> >
> > > > The loss is the chance for us to see the creative effort of another
> > > > and possibly be inspired by it. The fact that this has become the
> > > > central issue of my proposed changes flabbergasts me.
> >
> > > I'm hoping that it only appears to be the central issue because the
> > > rest of the proposal has met with general agreement and that if this
> > > issue can be resolved, it will be speedily adopted. (but again, with
> > > no formal organisation, who decides?)
> >
> > Why can't we use copyright to handle any problems with publishing
> > DAT files? If the author doesn't want it in the public domain, add
> > a "0 Copyright ..." line the model file before submitting it.
> >
> > People that won't go this far probably won't submit any models
> > anyway. Have we ever seen a model submitted by someone who makes
> > money off of them? How many of Larry's models have been submitted?
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> Several, actually.
Hmmm, now that you mention it, I do recall something of yours up
for a vote. Did you submit a model, or just scenes? Did you ever
submit as a model something you were selling?
And hey, do we have archives of the old entries?
> > PS. Don't get me wrong. I like the idea that people can make money
> > off their models. I personally bought a train car from Larry, and the
> > Brickmania CD. I just wonder if it's really even an issue here.
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> I think it is an issue, and worse, I think it highlights an underlying
> issue of larger import.
> ...
> Orion worked hard to get these contests restarted. I'm concerned
> that this sort of thing can sap enthusiasm.
I wouldn't want to do that. I'll be happy with whatever we end up
with if it keeps the MOTM and SOTM going. If we get DAT links for
the models, I'll be even happier.
Don
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