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(...) The operative word being "I". ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I know this is a kind of dead topic, but I was watching the AFI Top 100 movie songs and I just had to juxtapose the statement above and the Mel Brooks' satirical song meant to be the ultimate in bad taste: Springtime for Hitler Germany was (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not think that is truly representing it accurately. It was Dubya's staff that rather willfully read into the intelligence what they wanted to hear, or possibly exploited what was there by presenting what the higher ups wanted/expected to (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I happen to find the things Man finds worthful completely worthless. Monetary wealth? Success? Fame? Getting laid? Or happiness? Even happiness for its own sake is empty. (...) At the very least, focusing on God turns our narcissistic (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The point is that Dubya did not invent the intelligence and mislead us into war. Everyone was mislead including Dubya. (...) Well the last pro-Kerry Ad I heard on the radio says that John Kerry stands by his descision to vote for military (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I find both major candidates bad choices. I plan to vote for Bandarek unless it is looking really close in Michigan, in which case I will hold my nose and vote for Kerry. (1) But here is a viewpoint from a (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Two very worthy distinctions otherwise lost on many of the most enthusiastic christians. God doesn't seem to do much for athiests. And people who can't find any value in life without the need to resort to a god seem to me to have something of (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ha! Well my version would be: "God gives Christians self-worth. Life without God, if examined theologically, is worthless" ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bumped to commemorate the 3rd anniversary. AC Pin (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is this the secular version of "an eye for an eye"? (...) All Christians? (...) Any specific examples in mind? (he asked knowingly) (...) Okay, someone from Vietnam comes to live in the US and continues to fry up cats and dogs for meals. Any (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That is why Jesus summed it up nicely into: "Love God with all of your heart, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself." That's all you really need to know and do. But I think you are being a little disingenuous WRT to worshipping (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Any God who would be so deliberately vague (which is to say deceptive (which is to say evil)) as to prevent easy comprehension of the correct meaning of his One Word on Earth is unworthy of my worship. (...) Do you accept that the examination (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think the OT is just as foreign to a modern Jew who reads Hebrew as it is to a Western American. To really understand it, one must have a knowledge of ancient Judaism and all of its culture and practices. Many of those traditions have been (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is the best Trek-- "That's alright with me, I just bought a boat..." "Still think we're finished?"--"More than ever..." "Note to Galley; Romulan Ale no longer to be served at diplomatic functions" Ahhh, what a flick! Dave K (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Watching (URL) Star Trek VI> again, are we? Dave! (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Kinda like the cartoon that 'Fundie' Christians love to trot out in their newsletters--guy at funeral--'Poor old athiest Joe, all dressed up with nowhere to go' Beyond that, when (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's not a primer, but it does tell the stories in plain langugage. And as far as I can tell, it's just as accurate as the Hebrew version (so the random english translation bit from your argument can be dropped). (...) So any criticism of the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if his goals are completely opaque to us? What if severing the restrictive ties of international prestige is a goal for the new world order crowd? What if handing an unquenchable mess to a Democrat so that four years later the next step (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) True peace will never exist as long as some people have things that other people want and have no way to obtain. I doubt very much that our species will ever solve this problem. On the bright side, I expect we'll use technology to outgrow our (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Do you mean (URL) (...) Clinton still says this, but it still doesn't make a difference re: Dubya's choice to invade when he did and for the reasons that he gave. (...) Did Kerry make that statement? I don't deny it, though I haven't seen it. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John said "Bush is brilliant" and that is what I am arguing about. Not "Clinton is an idiot". John is playing a game: Bush is not responsible for anything that has gone wrong, it's all Somebody Else's Fault. Essentially, he's trying to drag (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There haven't? This was in all the papers, news, etc. shortly after major combat was allegedly 'ended'. (...) But at the same time even Bill Clinton when president stated that sooner or later the U.S. would have to deal with Sadam and his (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A couple of points: To date, no huge mass graves have been found, so we're left with the uncomfortable problem of explaining where the 1.5 million bodies went. And I'm not looking for Pol Pot's "show me the bodies, or else there was no (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So what about the 1-2 hundred thousand Saddam was not able to kill as political prisoners? (the longer we go the highet that number gets) It is estimated he killed 1.5 million between the two Gulf wars. Now don't get me wrong there are a lot (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dubya can't on one hand claim that the UN is irrelevant while on the other hand condemning Saddam for disobeying the UN's resolutions. Additionally, it's not up to Bush to enforce the UN's resolutions; do you propose that the US act as the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm usually wrong about how to reason with John, so maybe I should just shut up. But would it make things easier if those of us who think that Bush was seriously negligent in his handling of the intelligence regarding the 9/11 attack admitted (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah, okay; now I see where you were going with my hypothetical. With this knowledge, I think we can dispense with hypotheticals. (...) Hmmm. Right? No. Yes. Legally, of course, you have every right to do what you are doing and that is only (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have some comment on the tip of my tongue about what you could be eating in the meantime, but somehow, (hint, it involves the President's last name) I'm not sure I can say that on Lugnet. _ :-0 - Is it still missing, by the way? (Munch's The (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe that military intervention was warranted, given Rez 1441 and SH's complete and incomprehensible stupidity about not coming clean WRT WMDs. If you are searching for a smoking idiot, surely it is he! (...) Hmmm. What is your evidence? (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Fair enough. (...) Okay. But I reserve the right to have you eat magpie and admit you were wrrrrr if they turn up in Syria or somewhere:-) (...) Check (URL) this> out. (...) And his triumphs, I presume. Fair enough. (...) Why no video? (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That would be included in what I said. However, there are no WoMD and no Al Qaeda connections. Bush can believe what he wants, but I am saying he should be held accountable for his mistakes. (...) He just released a new claim that America is (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You are counting embassy land as official territory of Australia, and that's fine. (...) Say it with pride, Ross! I salute Australians and their courage to stand up and offer their sons and daughters as sacrifices for the cause of Freedom. The (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I believe Australia is also playing a small part in the "war on terror", as well as Iraq. I guess we haven't been as lucky as the US. (URL) well. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, I guess. ROSCO (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I believe that the Bush administration believed he had them and could at any time make them available to al-Qaeda. That was the source of the immediacy, not that some attack was imminent. (...) Do you have a better explanation of the (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I hadn't seen that piece, but I cited a few yesterday with the same sentiments (URL) HERE> (...) Is not the market a two-way street? They should need us as much as we them. (...) And therein lies the rub. Sure, what's the difference (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Are you referring to this op-ed piece cited in : (URL) MSNBC> (also cited in about a bazillion other places) (...) Don't confuse selling us something with not wanting our input into their internal processes. Our "friends" the Saudis are HAPPY (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is the link with Islam? I thought the trouble in the ME was due to Israeli nationalism, not Islam. Perhaps you could share your source with us? Scott A (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is the opposite not also true? If you think not, read what the Mitchell report says about Israeli schools. Scott A (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I wouldn't state that Dubya The Idiot did nothing. He did something--he told all his buddies--remember that many of them didn't, or wouldn't, fly in the preceeding weeks leading up to 9/11. Note that this pre 9/11 (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Look up the quote chain and you'll see I established "immenent use of WoMD". Basically, you are agreeing with me. All you did is weasel in the words "bad man". (...) You accept that lame explanation? You are satisfied with that? A shrug of the (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, you made such a big deal (not to be confused with another type of Big Deal;-) that I was dodging, I thought you actually thought that I was dodging the question. (...) If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't think it's possible to trap you. I'm not even sure I know what you mean. (...) Seriously? (...) I appreciate the compliment. (...) OK, now here's what I don't get. Before you said it was beneath you to answer. What gives? (...) Somehow (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What? You think you've trapped me with your idiotic scenario??? LOL (...) Imagine? It's already true. But your ridiculous conclusion that the answer to preventing it is to slaughter all Muslims is outrageous! (...) And thus your little science (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That’s nice, but I notice that you didn’t answer my question. Should anyone in the Dubya adminstration be held accountable for inciting a war based on false and/or culpably erroneous information? And in any case, your honest belief is (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I meant was this: I was once a Christian. Out of curiosity, in your mind, does that affect my right to criticize or poke fun at the Bible? (...) I prefer to speak of these matters in terms of skin color, since I'm not entirely sure I know (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it another 50 days or so. Dave! (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John Neal -- King of the dodge! He's here all week folks, try the veal. Just in case, and more, for other readers, I'll give it one more shot: Let us imagine for a moment that we came (through whatever means) to believe that Islam had a much (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A number of the posts in this tree have had their FUT reset to off-topic.debate already, after I saw your post I went back and did most of the rest. (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.ancient)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:I3rK7M.E7B@lugnet.com... (...) Rabbi in (...) perceived (...) It would depend on many things, including context and delivery. (...) created (...) So if they were created by a person such a this, and (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You aren't being serious. (...) Skin color wasn't the issue; it was a racial issue. (...) You've missed my point. How about this: a Jewish comedian pokes fun at Rabbi in a joke. A Muslim comedian pokes fun at a Rabbi in a joke. Is not one (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't agree. He sold the war on the premise that SH was a bad man who possessed WMDs and wouldn't think twice about making those weapons available to our enemies. I never bought the direct threat idea-- just the aid and abett idea. After (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That has absolutely nothing to do with the point. Bush sold the war on the basis of "WoMD" (Weapons of Mass Destruction for anyone wandering by) and when Bush couldn't find any, he came up with the "bad man" excuse. Bait and switch. (...) That (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Chris, your hypothetical is so proposterous that is doesn't merit a response. What your little scenario actually sounds like is the Islamo-fascists' goal: Kill all of the Jews and infidels and impose world-wide sharia. JOHN (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OBL is a religious fanatic, not a political one. He doesn't even represent a sovereign nation. (...) That is exactly what I will tell you. I know that "far more complex" reasons sounds appealing, but honestly, what are they??? He doesn't even (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (snippage) (...) Please. SH was always a threat to stability in that region-- the first Gulf War was ample proof of that. Again, intelligence was bad WRT WMD but frankly, in a scenario like that it is in our best interests to err on the side (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks, though the lecture is a bit of a waste, I'm afraid - I simply hit the "submit" button and then noticed all the newsgroups it was attached to. Sorry to one and all, but there wasn't any way for me to fix it myself at that point. ;-) (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think they lobbed a few petulant shells from U-Boats at us, but it is immaterial whether they actually attacked U.S. soil: they declared war on us a few days after the Pearl Harbor attack. (...) You keep piping up with tha line. Bush's (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They certainly should have known. Is anyone really surprised by events? (...) OIL? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I said the "number of deaths" specifically has anything to do with terrorism. The violence, theft and oppression does; the deaths on both sides are only a result of that. (...) My point was that we can't really pick and choose who (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Unless you mean Prescott Bush begetting George HW Bush begetting George W Bush, then I don't think that Nazis did attack US soil. However, they invaded and attacked numerous allies of the US, did they not? Did Iraq likewise engage in invasion (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is a sovereign nation? Is there really such a thing anymore? Everything seems so global these days. Global corporations. Global terrorist organizations. Global special interest groups. The global internet. Nothing much seems rooted to a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, if this cause justifies the loss in human life, how much more loss would it justify? What if our best guess based on well-rounded intelligence suggested that the only way to have a serious chance of ridding the world of this vermin was (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, I wonder from where that idea could have come? At the end of his term, Clinton was pardoning crooks so fast it was unbelievable! Besides, you don't have to be convicted to be pardoned. Let's wait and see if Bush actually pardons anyone (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did the Nazis ever attack US soil? (...) What about the aftermath of WWI in terms of policies towards Germany as an major instigator of WWII? (...) Can't parse. "For" the US perhaps? (...) lol seems like that we exactly what you were driving (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I didn't mean at that level of detail. I don't think Bush particularly cares at the trouble. (I mean, I'm sure he'd rather that headache would go away, but that's life.) He was willing to start the war with the associated risks (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Really? They knew in advance that these fanatics and insurgents would be emboldened? I think you have to be pretty machavellian to see how that would actually be of any benefit to anyone, enough that you would deliberately plot for that (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would actually really appriciate if you DID say something every time you force it, just because otherwise, a thread will just disappear as far as NNTP/SMTP users are concered. If you do let people know you moved it, then at least if I still (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You don't really believe that it was pointless. Do you? Bush had reasons for doing what he did. You (and I!) just disagree with the felicity of his reasons. You have, in the past, given room for either evil or incompetence as the explanation (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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snip (...) unjustified (...) Iraqis. I (...) they (...) Yes, it is sad. But he will surely pay for it sooner or later. /J (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did FDR initiate an unprovoked attack upon a sovereign nation? If so, was he inspired to do so because of decades of biased and unbalanced foreign policy, which itself came on the heels of imperialist efforts to usurp the natural resources of (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, that's the point, isn't it? Bush deliberately initiated an unjustified war, and now 1,000+ US soldiers are dead, along with ~12,000 innocent Iraqis. I agree that soldiers put themselves in harm's way, but one would hope that they (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As you wrote it, I don't think the Israeli land grab is terrorism. Terrorism is a means not an end. The point is to instill fear so that some other thing (even if poorly defined) may happen. The Israelis may (like every other nation) use (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: (snip) In my view this subthread is not really suitable to .general, especially the way it's went downtree. I forceFUT several of the posts in this branch without saying anything(1), but I'm not sure it (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, what Beslan/Chechnya shows is that combating Terrorism with Terrorism does not work. The same goes for Israel. Personally, I found the events in Beslan very disturbing. Even more so, if I'm honest, than the events of 911. However, we must (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To stick with your analogy for a moment, can Michael Jackson, as a former black person, call a currently black person the "N" word? Not that I think this is a very good analogy. Having dark skin is really not analagous to subscribing to a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But nothing; were the rights of Communists not restricted? Search google for "McCarthyism" & "freedom" to see what I mean. Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Are Muslims starting to "get it"? (URL) Is the European Left starting to "get it"? Hope. JOHN (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Good one:-) (...) Ah, well, I should've kept my fingers shut because I don't have the time or inclination to "go there" (again) WRT to this topic, but here is an analogy to consider: why can a black person call another black person the "N" (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A MOCery, perhaps... <groan> Brenden is just illustrating the words, he's not changing them or editing them in any way. I don't see how you can consider that mocking the good book. JohnG, GMLTC (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, by your "logic", was FDR 135 times worse than OBL? Or were you merely trolling? :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:I3osE0.EJL@lugnet.com... (...) 1,000th US (...) Laden, (...) thousands (...) sake of (...) mention (...) The main difference is that soldiers are asking for it. They are paying for bad US (...) (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Now that (URL) George W. Bush has killed> his 1,000th US citizen in Iraq, does that make him approximately 33% as bad as Osama bin Laden, who killed about 3,000 people in the WTC? Oh, wait--Bush has killed thousands more than that, when you factor (...) (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Once"? :-) But they could still be Communists regardless of acceptablity. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, this is quite the discussion, isn't it? Seeing this post, and the link to that Brickshelf gallery, I feel compelled to shed some light on the whole situation of the builder. That gallery belongs to my friend, Eric Anger. The models he's (...) (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) …but communism was once less than acceptable in the "Land of the Free". Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi Bruce, AFAIK the only way to cancel posts is via a newsreader (if your newsreader client supports it). I think a way to cancel posts via the web would be a nice enhancement :) ROSCO FUT: .admin.general (20 years ago, 6-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) It's hard to say on the face of it. The person might be just indulging in a typical historical "what if" scenario. Does it trivialize what happened? Not necessarily. Then again, he/she/it may be looking for DNA material to clone Hitler with (...) (20 years ago, 6-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simply put: The job of the moderators is not to expunge content YOU may find politically inappropriate or in poor taste. They merely enforce the content and usage guidelines set forth by BrickShelf. As for the "Iron Reich" glorifying Nazism, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Chris, either you are being facetious, or your friends are listening to too much talk radio. ;-) BTW What is a neo-hippy? Scott Arthur PS A t-shirt I saw the other day: The USSR had Pravda; the USA has Fox News. (...) (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure who you mean, exactly. But I work with a bunch of Bushites who hate Moore and they do pretty commonly assault the (liberal, commie, pinko, neo-hippy, etc.) bias in the US media. Is that what you mean? Chris (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Having watched a goodly portion of the speech, I can categorically declare it the lowest nostrum in modern history, conventional or otherwise. Dave! (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bruce, you failed to mention perhaps his greatest achievement. When he delivered his speech, it was from the "lowest rostrum in modern presidential conventional history". (what about unconventional history?). I've not seen the pictures, but it (...) (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If Moore causes issues to get debated which would otherwise lie quite, I think that’s a good thing. It amazes me how those interested ‘the truth’ attack Moore night and day whist saying nothing about the bias in the US media. I wonder why that (...) (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because I care more about you guys than I do the Republican conventioneers? Man their speakers do drone on, don't they? (...) See above. (...) Agreed. But besides the point I was making, which is that Moore damages his causes merely by being (...) (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why are you telling US this? Why aren't you on the podium at the Republican convention? For a party that detests Moore, they are bigger liars and prevaricators (and True Liarnators) than Moore. :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What?!? Would you have them run on their record? Thousands murdered while they stood around, still haven't found the guy responsible, went after the wrong guy for the wrong reasons, and Their Number One Guy still can't account for where he was (...) (20 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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