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Re: Help me with the math
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Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:37:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up and
have been taught to hate and murder innocent Israelis. Slightly different
angle of hatred, but it shows in living color how it can occur.
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Are you referring to this op-ed piece cited in :
MSNBC (also cited in about a bazillion
other places)
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Actually, I hadn’t seen that piece, but I cited a few yesterday with the same
sentiments HERE
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So you are saying that the Middle East doesn’t want us to buy their oil?
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Don’t confuse selling us something with not wanting our input into their
internal processes. Our “friends” the Saudis are HAPPY to sell us oil, as
long as it is on their terms, at the price, in the quantity and in the manner
of their choosing.
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Is not the market a two-way street? They should need us as much as we them.
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Including not selling it to us to make a point. Which, is
the right of the owners of the resources, after all. Whether that particular
gang of princes are the rightful owners would be a different question.
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And therein lies the rub. Sure, what’s the difference to an already billionaire
Sheik? The “royal families” better start pulling their heads out of their
kaffiyehs or the murmurs of revolution might begin...
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That does not translate into welcoming our views on whether it is appropriate
for their women to be able to drive or vote or hold meaningful jobs.
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In the end, Freedom must ring. We must allow cultures that are temporally
behind in development time to adjust their thinking, but it should be an
inevitability. It is up to modern cultures to assist in this process and
provide advanced technology to speed up the industrialization process.
I don’t care if a society is communist, socialist, theocratic, or secular--
their citizens must be free to choose and their rights upheld.
JOHN
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| (...) Bush would never upset his friends. (...) Well a certain "mordern country" is assiting human rights abuses in countries like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Yemen & Pakistan whilst breaking internatioanl law itself. What does that have to do with (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Are you referring to this op-ed piece cited in : (URL) MSNBC> (also cited in about a bazillion other places) (...) Don't confuse selling us something with not wanting our input into their internal processes. Our "friends" the Saudis are HAPPY (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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