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Re: Help me with the math
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:11:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:

  
   To date, no huge mass graves have been found, so we’re left with the uncomfortable problem of explaining where the 1.5 million bodies went.

There haven’t? This was in all the papers, news, etc. shortly after major combat was allegedly ‘ended’.

Do you mean these?

  
   No one is saying that Saddam was a great guy. The problem, as has been stated several times before, is that Dubya justified his invasion based on information that has turned out to be false and in some cases distorted.

But at the same time even Bill Clinton when president stated that sooner or later the U.S. would have to deal with Sadam and his WOMD.

Clinton still says this, but it still doesn’t make a difference re: Dubya’s choice to invade when he did and for the reasons that he gave.

   Even John Kerry stated this shortly after the World Trade Center attacks.

Did Kerry make that statement? I don’t deny it, though I haven’t seen it. If you have a cite, I’d be interested to read it. For that matter, we have to consider the context and how that view has been borne out; did Kerry revise his view upon gaining additional information? If not, did he endorse unilateral action in defiance of the UN and the majority of the world?

   While I still think it will take decades to dig up enough of Iraq to prove one way or the other this was not just Dubya but everyone was ‘fooled’.

Sadly, that won’t be good enough. Dubya made his case based on information that he claimed to know for certain, regarding the imminent threat to the US. If we happen to find a tanker of Sarin 20 years down the line, then that will do nothing to validate Dubya’s claims retroactively.

Dave!



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  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) The point is that Dubya did not invent the intelligence and mislead us into war. Everyone was mislead including Dubya. (...) Well the last pro-Kerry Ad I heard on the radio says that John Kerry stands by his descision to vote for military (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) More (URL) mass graves> that shouldn't be confused with justification for Dubya's deliberately illegal and voluntary oil war. Dave! (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) There haven't? This was in all the papers, news, etc. shortly after major combat was allegedly 'ended'. (...) But at the same time even Bill Clinton when president stated that sooner or later the U.S. would have to deal with Sadam and his (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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