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Re: Help me with the math
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Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:01:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
   John:
   Chris:

  
  
  
   the existence of Islam will continue to spawn out groups hostile to our security.

It’s already true.

Seriously?

If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up and have been taught to hate and murder innocent Israelis. Slightly different angle of hatred, but it shows in living color how it can occur.

Are you referring to this op-ed piece cited in :

MSNBC (also cited in about a bazillion other places)

   So you are saying that the Middle East doesn’t want us to buy their oil?

Don’t confuse selling us something with not wanting our input into their internal processes. Our “friends” the Saudis are HAPPY to sell us oil, as long as it is on their terms, at the price, in the quantity and in the manner of their choosing. Including not selling it to us to make a point. Which, is the right of the owners of the resources, after all. Whether that particular gang of princes are the rightful owners would be a different question.

That does not translate into welcoming our views on whether it is appropriate for their women to be able to drive or vote or hold meaningful jobs.

Hope that helps.



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  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) Actually, I hadn't seen that piece, but I cited a few yesterday with the same sentiments (URL) HERE> (...) Is not the market a two-way street? They should need us as much as we them. (...) And therein lies the rub. Sure, what's the difference (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Well, you made such a big deal (not to be confused with another type of Big Deal;-) that I was dodging, I thought you actually thought that I was dodging the question. (...) If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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