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Re: Help me with the math
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Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:08:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up and
have been taught to hate and murder innocent Israelis. Slightly different
angle of hatred, but it shows in living color how it can occur.
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Are you referring to this op-ed piece cited in :
MSNBC (also cited in about a
bazillion other places)
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Actually, I hadn’t seen that piece, but I cited a few yesterday with the same
sentiments HERE
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So you are saying that the Middle East doesn’t want us to buy their oil?
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Don’t confuse selling us something with not wanting our input into their
internal processes. Our “friends” the Saudis are HAPPY to sell us oil, as
long as it is on their terms, at the price, in the quantity and in the
manner of their choosing.
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Is not the market a two-way street? They should need us as much as we them.
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Including not selling it to us to make a point. Which, is
the right of the owners of the resources, after all. Whether that particular
gang of princes are the rightful owners would be a different question.
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And therein lies the rub. Sure, what’s the difference to an already
billionaire Sheik? The “royal families” better start pulling their heads out
of their kaffiyehs or the murmurs of revolution might begin...
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Bush would never upset his friends.
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That does not translate into welcoming our views on whether it is
appropriate for their women to be able to drive or vote or hold meaningful
jobs.
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In the end, Freedom must ring. We must allow cultures that are temporally
behind in development time to adjust their thinking, but it should be an
inevitability. It is up to modern cultures to assist in this process and
provide advanced technology to speed up the industrialization process.
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Well a certain “mordern country” is assiting human rights abuses in countries
like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Yemen & Pakistan whilst breaking internatioanl law
itself. What does that have to do with freedom?
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I don’t care if a society is communist, socialist, theocratic, or secular--
their citizens must be free to choose and their rights upheld.
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Did Iraqis choose the invasion? Did they choose to have their countrymen
tortured in Bush’s gulag? Do they choose to have their kids killed by Bush’s
bombs?
Scott A
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| (...) Actually, I hadn't seen that piece, but I cited a few yesterday with the same sentiments (URL) HERE> (...) Is not the market a two-way street? They should need us as much as we them. (...) And therein lies the rub. Sure, what's the difference (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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