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Re: Mailing list gateways
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lugnet.admin.general
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Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:19:05 GMT
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Steve Bliss wrote in message <36adb6d8.922755@lugnet.com>...
> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:37:29 GMT, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman)
> wrote:
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> > Here are some more random mostly-overlapping ideas -- just ideas:
> >
> > long alternatives short alternatives
> > ------------------------------------- ------------------------
> > lugnet.cad.software lugnet.cad.sw
> > lugnet.cad.software.development lugnet.cad.sw.dev
> > lugnet.cad.applications lugnet.cad.apps
> > lugnet.cad.applications.development lugnet.cad.apps.dev
> > lugnet.cad.parts.development lugnet.cad.parts.dev
> > lugnet.cad.elements.development lugnet.cad.elements.dev
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> How about these real candidates for the lugnet.cad.* hierarchy?
> lugnet.cad Unchanged, except for possible loss of
> content to groups below
> lugnet.cad.dat Unchanged
> lugnet.cad.dev.parts Parts development and publishing
> lugnet.cad.dev.apps Software development
>
> But this still splits discussion of software between two groups. Bug
> reports and suggestions go to lugnet.cad, with follow-up discussion of
> possible fixes and ideas. But further discussion might possibly go to
> lugnet.cad.dev.apps. And 'apps' is something of a high target for some
> programs. Maybe 'software' is better.
>
> So maybe
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> lugnet.cad General discussion
> lugnet.cad.dat DAT files
> lugnet.cad.parts Parts development, voting discussion. This
> is the mailing list target.[1]
> lugnet.cad.software Software-focused discussion. Bug reports,
> help requests, future ideas.
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> would be better?
I like the lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat, and lugnet.cad.dev heirarchy best. If
we ever got to the point where lugnet.cad was getting a hundred post a day, it
might make sense to further break it down. If anything, right now lugnet.cad
suffers from too low volume to keep it interesting.
For now, at least, I think bug reports, suggestions, help requests, etc.
should be done in lugnet.cad, while part voting and in-depth discussion among
programmer types (e.g. how to handle colors or meta-commands) would be in
lugnet.cad.dev.
> No matter what we do, if some people stay on as mailing-list
> subscribers, and we split content across several ng's, there will be a
> certain amount of confusion. We *could* subscribe everybody to
> everything (by default). I've been assuming that before the 'big
> switch', people would be able to opt out of the automatic subscription.
> I know I don't need to be subscribed--I'll just read the new groups in
> my newsreader.
Perhaps the way to handle this would be to make anouncement on L-Cad about
moving discussions to lugnet, and explain how to subscribe by all the
different methods. Then once we reach agreement, we give people a week or so
to unsubscribe to L-Cad with the knowledge that all those still subscribed to
L-Cad at the end of the week will automatically be subscribed to lugnet.cad,
lugnet.cad.dat, and lugnet.cad.dev via e-mail.
I would also suggest gatewaying L-CAD messages into lugnet.cad, but not the
other way (or we'll keep knocking L-CAD down). That way if people stumble
across an L-CAD reference, we can let them know how to find our new location.
> My one misgiving is that parts updates are currently identified as being
> published by the L-CAD group. L-CAD has no existence outside of the the
> mailing list. In the above hierarchy, where does L-CAD exist? With the
> migration to lugnet, do the parts updates become less the product of
> L-CAD, and more the product of Terrell Keller? Not that Terry doesn't
> deserve *tons* of credit for the work he does putting those things
> together. I'm more concerned about it putting more burden and stress on
> him as a focal point. This is why I was originally thinking of a
> lugnet.cad.l-cad group.
We can still consider ourselves the "L-CAD community" regardless of where/how
we communicate with one another. The community of common interests existed
before the list did, though the existence of the list certainly helped build
up the community. I'd say continue to call them L-CAD updates.
-John Van
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| (...) How about these real candidates for the lugnet.cad.* hierarchy? lugnet.cad Unchanged, except for possible loss of content to groups below lugnet.cad.dat Unchanged lugnet.cad.dev.parts Parts development and publishing lugnet.cad.dev.apps (...) (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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