To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.admin.generalOpen lugnet.admin.general in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Administrative / General / 968
967  |  969
Subject: 
Re: Mailing list gateways
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:19:05 GMT
Viewed: 
2305 times
  
Steve Bliss wrote in message <36adb6d8.922755@lugnet.com>...
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:37:29 GMT, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman)
wrote:

Here are some more random mostly-overlapping ideas -- just ideas:

  long alternatives                            short alternatives
  -------------------------------------        ------------------------
  lugnet.cad.software                          lugnet.cad.sw
  lugnet.cad.software.development              lugnet.cad.sw.dev
  lugnet.cad.applications                      lugnet.cad.apps
  lugnet.cad.applications.development          lugnet.cad.apps.dev
  lugnet.cad.parts.development                 lugnet.cad.parts.dev
  lugnet.cad.elements.development              lugnet.cad.elements.dev

How about these real candidates  for the lugnet.cad.* hierarchy?
   lugnet.cad               Unchanged, except for possible loss of
                            content to groups below
   lugnet.cad.dat           Unchanged
   lugnet.cad.dev.parts     Parts development and publishing
   lugnet.cad.dev.apps      Software development

But this still splits discussion of software between two groups.  Bug
reports and suggestions go to lugnet.cad, with follow-up discussion of
possible fixes and ideas.  But further discussion might possibly go to
lugnet.cad.dev.apps.  And 'apps' is something of a high target for some
programs.  Maybe 'software' is better.

So maybe

   lugnet.cad               General discussion
   lugnet.cad.dat           DAT files
   lugnet.cad.parts         Parts development, voting discussion.  This
                            is the mailing list target.[1]
   lugnet.cad.software      Software-focused discussion. Bug reports,
                            help requests, future ideas.

would be better?


I like the lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat, and lugnet.cad.dev heirarchy best.  If
we ever got to the point where lugnet.cad was getting a hundred post a day, it
might make sense to further break it down.  If anything, right now lugnet.cad
suffers from too low volume to keep it interesting.

For now, at least, I think bug reports, suggestions, help requests, etc.
should be done in lugnet.cad, while part voting and in-depth discussion among
programmer types (e.g. how to handle colors or meta-commands) would be in
lugnet.cad.dev.

No matter what we do, if some people stay on as mailing-list
subscribers, and we split content across several ng's, there will be a
certain amount of confusion.  We *could* subscribe everybody to
everything (by default).  I've been assuming that before the 'big
switch', people would be able to opt out of the automatic subscription.
I know I don't need to be subscribed--I'll just read the new groups in
my newsreader.


Perhaps the way to handle this would be to make anouncement on L-Cad about
moving discussions to lugnet, and explain how to subscribe by all the
different methods.  Then once we reach agreement, we give people a week or so
to unsubscribe to L-Cad with the knowledge that all those still subscribed to
L-Cad at the end of the week will automatically be subscribed to lugnet.cad,
lugnet.cad.dat, and lugnet.cad.dev via e-mail.

I would also suggest gatewaying L-CAD messages into lugnet.cad, but not the
other way (or we'll keep knocking L-CAD down).  That way if people stumble
across an L-CAD reference, we can let them know how to find our new location.

My one misgiving is that parts updates are currently identified as being
published by the L-CAD group.  L-CAD has no existence outside of the the
mailing list.  In the above hierarchy, where does L-CAD exist?  With the
migration to lugnet, do the parts updates become less the product of
L-CAD, and more the product of Terrell Keller?  Not that Terry doesn't
deserve *tons* of credit for the work he does putting those things
together.  I'm more concerned about it putting more burden and stress on
him as a focal point.  This is why I was originally thinking of a
lugnet.cad.l-cad group.


We can still consider ourselves the "L-CAD community" regardless of where/how
we communicate with one another.  The community of common interests existed
before the list did, though the existence of the list certainly helped build
up the community.  I'd say continue to call them L-CAD updates.

-John Van



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Mailing list gateways
 
(...) How about these real candidates for the lugnet.cad.* hierarchy? lugnet.cad Unchanged, except for possible loss of content to groups below lugnet.cad.dat Unchanged lugnet.cad.dev.parts Parts development and publishing lugnet.cad.dev.apps (...) (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

80 Messages in This Thread:



























Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR