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Re: Informal CFD: robotics competition newsgroup(s)
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Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:13:40 GMT
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On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:48:15 GMT, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman)
wrote:
> Let's throw another data point into the equation: A specialized/focused ng
> for Dave Baum's _Not_Quite_C_ language/compiler. Would something like this
> go best as lugnet.robotics.nqc or in a new place like lugnet.comp.lang.nqc?
> (Someday, for example, there might be a lugnet.comp.lang.logo for Logo
> programming.)
I could go either way. I suppose that a lugnet.comp.* hierarchy could
expand someday, to cover various software packages and online stuff.
No, wait. I changed my mind. How much potential is there for
*computer-centered* discussion on lugnet? This is lego we're talking
about. If we're talking about online playing, that would be CAD or
events or something. The computer is a tool, not an object of
discussion.
So I guess lugnet.robotics.nqc would be better. Even
lugnet.robotics.lang.nqc, if you wanted to leave room for
lugnet.robotics.lang.hist^H^H^H^Hlogo.
I'm still not thrilled about sub-grouping under lugnet.robotics, because
of its dual nature. But that's just my opinion. No underlying facts or
data. Wait, here's one: the majority of l.r's content comes from the
mailing list.
> I was talking with Dave a bit about starting up a focus-group for NQC.
> While a dedicated newsgroup wasn't something that he had considered
> proposing (he's a modest guy :), he was enthusiastic about the idea and says
> he would be a regular contributor and be present to answer questions and so
> forth if a group were created. He also noted that an advantage of a
> dedicated newsgroup would be the centralization of all NQC questions/issues
> in one place.
>
> With over 3000 downloads of NQC and 100 people having sent Dave mail about
> it
> (including ports to other platforms, sample code, documentation, and web
> page graphics), it seems like it has quite a following.
It sounds like it is definitely a newsgroup waiting to happen.
> > One thing, also IMO, lugnet.robotics is an
> > odd bird, since it is very mailing-list related[2], so I lean away from
> > adding subgroups under it.
>
> But is it really so different from other ng's because of the second mail
> gateway?
Yes, because the mailing list is a separate entity. Heck, the mailing
is the *main* entity. In the other lugnet ng's, the mailing list can be
viewed as an echo of the newsgroup. For lugnet.robotics, it's more like
the newsgroup is an echo of the mailing list.
> It's just like any other ng here, except it just happens to have
> two mailing lists connected to it instead of only one, and the second
> mailing list has a separate subscriber-base.
I'd say that's a pretty important difference.
> For example, here's a breakdown of the origins of the last 400 articles
> posted to the .robotics ng (about 10 days' worth of articles):
>
> # % Message Origin Transfer method
> --- ----- ------------------------------------- ---------------------
> 258 64.5 mailto:lego-robotics@crynwr.com SMTP (e-mail gateway)
> 122 30.5 news://lugnet.com/lugnet.robotics HTTP (web interface)
> 13 3.2 http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/ NNTP (netnews)
> 7 1.8 mailto:lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com SMTP (e-mail gateway)
> === =====
> 400 100.0
>
> Fundamentally, from a message-origin point of view, the only difference
> between lugnet.robotics and other lugnet.* ng's is that there are 4 lines in
> the chart above rather than 3.
An additional difference (not to beat on the point too much), 2 out of
every 3 messages comes from the independant mail-list server.
> Say, what about these--?
>
> lugnet.robotics.events
> lugnet.robotics.events.robot-arena
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> Hey, I think I actually that!
Those sound good.
But a general-purpose lugnet.events hierarchy would be interesting, too.
> > Steve
> > [1] In this case, the 'gaming' charter would be to cover physical events
> > of people getting together (either physically or through the internet)
> > and playing games or participating in competitions. It would not
> > include discussion of various software or RPGs written to use LEGO.
> > [...]
>
> If there was a .gaming or .games hierarchy, and RPGs weren't a part of it,
> I wonder what other types of games and competitions would go there besides
> robotics competitions? For example, I have difficulty imagining people
> having Cyber Slam tournaments. :-)
I meant that general discussion of RPGs wasn't what I meant when I
mentioned .games.. But discussion & planning for get-togethers to play
LEGO-based RPGs would be part of the charter.
Steve
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