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Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
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Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:38:56 GMT
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"Moz (Chris Moseley)" wrote:
Deliberately inflammatory reply by me follows..
> In NZ it has resulted in kids being fired when they get old enough for
> the minimum wage to bite. "happy birthday kid, now get lost".
>
> > I could never be a libertarian because 1) I have no faith in Man's ability
> > to care about each other and 2) I have no faith in Man's ability to • consider
> > the common good without being forced by government.
That's claptrap. Normal people are inherently good, and further,
properly structured societies incent people to act in their own self
interest, and cull those that are inherently bad.
As for pittance wages, remove the 80% (or more, 99% in Sweden, for
instance) drag of the current govts on the economy and you will see an
unending boom so large that all that want to work will be able to live
handsomely. As for those that don't, bleeding hearts can voluntarily
contribute, and if not, think of it as evolution in action.
. Which fails because stripping pays more, and the owners
> can always move on. So the caring ones usually get driven out or forced to
> change. Look at nuclear power plants, for instance.
Stripping only pays more if the long term costs (leaching, adjacent
property value reduction, etc) are ignored.
Abolish the EPA and use tort and (especially) criminal law to go after
polluters and you'd see a quick reduction in new strip mine projects (as
well as other polluting projects) .
We need strict enforcement of exising law, not regulations that shield
companies. Minimum standards always turn out to be a shield that
companies hide behind, they compete to hit the minimum, just barely.
The first time a company prez went to jail for murder, or at least
negligent homicide, because her subordinates built a plant that emitted
too many pollutants, and knew it, might be a bit surprising, but you'd
see some changes fast.
Your friendly radical.
--
Larry Pieniazek http://my.voyager.net/lar
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <366C20C0.1D3A29CA@c...AM.com>... (...) Please tell me you don't believe this. You'd lose the shread of respect I have for your intellect if you do. Read the news. Every day is full of murder, theft, abuse, and hate. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
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| (...) Regulations that shield companies....... Sounds familiar, and one of the biggest impediments to customers getting a fair deal in the shops here in the UK and Europe. Consumer goods cost more in the UK than in our competitor's shops. For (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
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| Larry produced a deliberately inflammatory reply to my original inflammatory post: (...) Hate to say this Larry, but over here we have a lot less government than you have, and it hasn't helped. What it does mean is that we're much more vulnerable (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote in reply to "Moz (Chris Moseley)" (...) Larry, old stick, it would be nice if you didn't simply ignore inconvenient questions. I know you don't have pat answers, but they make your provocation seem somewhat empty. Moz, who (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ldraw cannon
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| (...) I have a shooting cannon in my to-render-bucket, but unfortunately, it has low priority. Also, at the Tracked Parts List at (URL) it says: 3 Cannon Zach Coakley Planning to Work On 1/7/98 I'll never learn if that means January 7th or July (...) (26 years ago, 6-Nov-98, to lugnet.cad)
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