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  Re: The formation of an ILTCO
 
If you are going to form IOLTC please--PLEASE have no age restrictions as the TEEN LEGO TRAIN CLUB may be forming and would like to have deligates in the IOLTC. thanks kai (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: The formation of an ILTCO
 
"James Brown" <galliard@shades-of-night.com> wrote in message news:G9FsvA.47n@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] . (...) to (...) NCLUG is a similar situation - NCLUG/NCLTC would essentially be one in the same. That may not always be the case (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: What's in a name? (I*LTC)
 
"James Brown" <galliard@shades-of-night.com> wrote in message news:G9FtHA.68o@lugnet.com... (...) anyway. (...) IOLTC it is, as soon as I get the confirmation back from Pairlist it will go live. I had come to the same conclusion this morning but am (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  What's in a name? (I*LTC)
 
Ok, we've had proposals for Brotherhood, Organization, Congress and Association to replace the star. Several people have expessed a mild preference for Organization. If no one has any strenuous objections, I suggest that IOLTC it is. Unless I hear (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: The formation of an ILTCO
 
(...) Same for NELUG. (...) I agree with James and I would add "why GATS and NMRA"? Here in the New England they don't even come around for us to display. Our main option is Greenberg which is mostly up and down the East Coast. Plus others do (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: The formation of an ILTCO
 
John Neal wrote in message <3A9C257F.C626578B@u...st.net>... (...) Just a bit of a nit, John... VLC isn't centered on trains, but our only public display (so far) has been a train layout and we plan to exhibit at train shows again, 2-3 times this (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: I*LTC charter
 
International Association of Lego Train Clubs? if you are going to have induvidual clubs join. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: The formation of an ILTCO
 
(...) I don't think that the LUG vs LTC thing is really relevant. As a prime example, NALUG has done 2 trains shows, intends to do more in the future, but has no intention or desire to form a seperate LTC - we're stunningly informal as it is, and it (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: I*LTC charter
 
A number of us must have all independently decided that a little facilitation/summarization would be a good idea. I think this is an excellent statement of purpose. In lugnet.trains.org, James Brown writes: <snip> (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: I<whatever>LTC summary
 
(...) Right. And to make it work, it's not required that every group conform to some rigid standard (ala N-trak), although that gives you the most flexibility. *all* that is required is that a few modules from each layout can somehow interface, not (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: I<whatever>LTC summary
 
(...) <snip> (...) Sounds good to me. You must have posted this while I was working on my own (somewhat more formally worded version) of the same. Pretty fast - do you do this for a living or something? ;) (...) Pick a name, start a mailing list. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: I<whatever>LTC summary
 
(...) That was one of the topics we talked and dreamed about at the 'summit' in New York - how "awesome" it would be to have a show where two or three (or more!) different LTCs could display. (Either separately or as one huge combined layout.) Can (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  The formation of an ILTCO
 
There has been much discussion by groups wondering whether or not affiliation to this org would be beneficial or not. So I think that it would be helpful to discuss such a group's charter. I see 2 benefits: The first would relate directly to train (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  I*LTC charter
 
A lot of the bouncing around has been of what I*LTC would be/do/want/need/whatever. Here's a proposal, in an attempt to move things forward a bit more quickly. Obviously, this should/will need tweaking; it's based on what I've seen bandied about, (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)  
 
  Re: I<whatever>LTC summary
 
(...) Larry, Thanks for the summary this is basically just as I see it at the moment. <snip summary> (...) Yes. (...) Good point. Trains are definitly the most likely thing to be displayed at the moment so it is probably not going to be a common (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  I<whatever>LTC summary
 
Here's a summary as I see it so far - The organizational goals aren't 100% clear yet but are getting clearer. - more of a sharing of experiences and ideas and resources (like the handout to pick a small example, but other stuff too) - less of a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: MICHLUG Statements WAS (Re: TeenLTC)
 
Ok sorry I did not realize it would get to this point. I was having a bad day and to find the post by John and Larry just made it worse. After some St. Johns Wort pill I realize how much of a !#@ i was. I apologize to everyone on LUGNET for the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I think we can wait and see on that. If every other group has 2 reps then we should probably have 2 but if one is all that is needed then I am happy to be that one. Eric Kingsley (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Oh no, I know everything is still in the planning stages and just by talking about it NELUG isn't getting tied to anything further down the road... I just meant that *if* this is the way things are going to go, NELUG should discuss it in depth (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I would agree. I things are still in the planning stage so I want to wait it out but I don't think this new organization should or could negotiate flat deal that would satisfy all regional organizaions. I personally only want to do this for (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Saint Louis Train/Users Group
 
Anyone in the Saint Louis area interested in starting a LTC or a LUG? I have been trying to start one but have not been very successful. There were two of us, but the other had to drop out. The only things we have done are to get a name CMLUG (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.mo, lugnet.loc.us.mo.stl) ! 
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Well, in sub-threads like this one: (URL) seems a lot like IOLTC, IBLTC, or ICLTC (whatever it ends up getting called) is going to be expected to "negotiate" with TLC, etc on behalf of its sub-groups. If that is going to be the case, NELUG (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
Amy, (...) Ha ha. Not funny. I merely mentioned this because there was no response. If you have some positive ideas in regards to organization on this, you are more than welcome to contribute it. I never said anthing like Chris and I are the only (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.trains.org)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) It is to me. I guess I don't expect IOLTC to "represent" NELUG in any formal sense. What I expect IOLTC to be is a forum where we can share experiances, including honorarium fee's from show promoters as well as any "considerations" they have (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
John Gerlach wrote in message ... (...) layouts (...) assistance? Maybe there are two things getting tangled up together here - the existence, membership and purpose of an IOLTC group, and assistance from Lego negotiated by such group. It seems to (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Hmm. Well, as a fellow NELUG member, I have to admit that I am rather counter to the idea of a "meta-group" representing NELUG when facing any other organisation, espeically TLC. I am certainly not opposed to seeing some kind of forum where (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Site updates
 
Looking good. Why the split with this 2x4 electric plate? (URL) VinZant <legotrains@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G9FAyu.3EI@lugnet.com... (...) new (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) All good questions. I guess my answer would be that I "expect" nothing. If something is worked out so that we got some sort of discount then all the better but I expect nothing. (...) I think you answer yourself later on this but here are my (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) If this gets off the ground, it seems fairly likely to me that it will either claim to be (or even more likely, be perceived as) speaking for all LEGO train displayers - at which point there is a certain responsibility for the org to give any (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
I dont think the need for the IOLTC would be dealing with LEGO as a group, but more for dealing with show promoters as a group. I think once shows catch on that we are talking with each other and such, then we're in a better position to negotiate (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) That is a question that I've been wrestling with. Someone farther up the thread put forth the idea that the IOLTC would be used for contacts and negotiations with LEGO and LEGO Direct. What sort of negotiations? What would any potential IOLTC (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I would tend to agree, I suspect Steve's intent was to be inclusionary not exclusionary. But if any of the following are true, I would think that the club may not have a compelling need to belong (other than for informational reasons): - The (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
...snip... (...) ...more sinpage... Absolutely. Last time I checked this was your site. I guess I'm a little confused by this. Why is what we're getting paid from GATs a secret in the first place? I have to admit that I have no idea what we get from (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)  
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
Amy, (...) My point is that there has been no posts or ideas that would organize it. I posted several weeks ago, and no response at all, Amy. No one is dictactor or anything, I was simply trying to get some control over this Kai situation. If you (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I would agree. LTC's are a subset of LUG's (or, rather, a special type of LUG -- rather than being a general LEGO users group, they're tailored toward train stuff and with a serious agenda). So it's a conventional label. --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I don't see why not, NELUG, NALUG, and NCLUG members have all expressed interest and all do train shows. I don't see why "LTC" in your name would be a prerequisite of membership. Eric Kingsley (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
(...) Well I think you have a right to "butt into" any conversation you want. LUGNET is your baby after all. I think anyone suggesting someone should butt out of a conversation on LUGNET is rude and uncalled for. (...) Well that was partially my (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
sebarile-MOBL wrote in message ... (...) (question that got lost in other discussion)... Can this include clubs which don't call themselves LTC's but exhibit layouts at train shows, like VLC? Kevin ---...--- Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) this (...) See Todd's reply. (...) I could have worded this better. I know no-one wants to exclude women from the organisation. What I meant was, why use exclusive language when it's not necessary. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
(...) Well said, Eric! And I couldn't agree more. I was written privately by someone who was concerned that I was butting into a conversation which I had no business butting into. But since it was taking place (in part) in lugnet.org.us.nelug and (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
(...) While I'd agree that getting excited isn't A Good Thing, and that "MICHLTC has been gobbled up by Larry Industires" is over-stated, there does seem to be an element of "Let's do this my way" in the Michigan LEGO groups, the few seemingly (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
(...) I think this is one of those cases where the few outway the many... If some people think the name is sexist and stupid (I do as well) then I don't think we should use it. Being traditional doesn't make it right, besides to many people wouldn't (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Not really, I don't think. Names get chosen for whimsical reasons or no reason at all, or to be like other names. (c.f. John Allen's famous Gorre & Dapheted RR, one of the most spectactular pre 1960 layouts, which was named to make a really (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) That thought train sounds like rationalization to me. But it's not my brotherhood so forget my two cents. --Todd [followups to .trains.org] (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
(...) If you read between the lines, I most certainly did. (...) Regardless of being or not being PC, I think it's a sexist, stupid name. --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: LTC Links Page
 
(...) with all these LOGO's on the back! Anyway I was looking and it seems that your link to the ITLUG logo image is broken. I think it should be... (URL) are using... (URL) old GeoCities for you changing naming conventions on a whim... Thanks, Eric (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
Well sex, color and political affiliations, but age is a factor. At least for some including myself (NGLTC) jt (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
"Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:G9EzqK.464@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) best (...) Okay - we need to agree on a name. I have created four lists, and I can create more, but we do need some agreement here. To (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Site updates
 
Just wanted to let you all know that I have updated my site. It has some new pictures of my TGV and also a steam engine that I made. I plan to make one more car for my TGV to make it 8 cars long. (URL) me what you think. David (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
(...) Ah, the problem of the shifting Midwest. I'm taking Geography of the Midwest for my major (in Geography) this semester, and we have discussed the issue of the Midwest as a metaphor. Basically, the Midwest as a physical location seems to shift (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  MOC updates: Desert Express and Mobile Crane
 
Hi all, I just updated my brickshelf galleries with some new pictures from the Desert Express and the red and white Mobile Crane. The crane has a second counter boom to carry the Maxilift unit and a moving jib on top of the major boom. I also added (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains) ! 
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
To All, (...) meaning to ask, as this (...) Nope, we accept everyone, regardless of age, sex, color, political affiliations, etc. Scott S. -- (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
I'm in ours :) I would have said something about the "international brotherhood" but I pledged a fraternity freshman year, and even the girls were addressed as "brother so-and-so". (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: ....custom designed train
 
What may be old to you, is somewhat new to me....I don't really like Lego's website (www.lego.com), and 90% of the time lugnet.trains is talking about a lot of stuff that doesn't really interest me (90% of the time!!) not to say that the stuff you (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  MICHLUG Statements WAS (Re: TeenLTC)
 
To All, (I posted this to trains becuase of previous discussions, FUT org.us.michlug) It seems to me we are having some inner discussions in regards to Michlug, and various issues concerning that. Before we go spiraling out of control, I will make (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
Kai & All, (...) Larry did not gobble up MICHLTC, nor have you. Chris Leach and I founded it, and as far as I am concerned, both of you are members. Kai, you better calm down and stop posting drivel like this. Please e-mail me in private if you want (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
To All, (...) of (...) server, (...) inappropriate (...) Kai is a member of it, even though MLTC is very loosely organized, speaking as a fellow founding person, I think.... (...) groups (...) the (...) Kai gets very excited, and thing shappen like (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Building a gravel silo
 
I'm working on the inside of a gravel silo and I'm not completely happy with it. The silo I have in mind dumps gravel into either a hopper waggon or into a dump-truck. Currently I have two designs: (warning bad ascii art) T = the truck H = the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
(...) He didn't say anything. (...) The BLE has female members. Further, clubs don't even HAVE a gender, it's a brotherhood of CLUBS not of club members. Why be gratuitiously PC when it's not necessary? ++Lar (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) What do *you* think? (or was that a facetious question? :-) ) I would prefer not to belong to any club that excludes girls. (I *like* girls, just ask me, they're fun to have around) I can think of at least one girl member of most of the train (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Oh, I like IOLTC myself. I also think that "Brotherhood" might not be the best way to go. I vote for IOLTC. Eric Kingsley (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
Hi all, if I did get it right you are planning, or allready set up a mailing list system for Lego Train Clubs? I would like to participate as a representative of the FGLTC (First German LEGO Train Club) which was founded by Ben. Perhaps he also (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I would love to be one of the reps from BayLUG! Russell (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Yeah, I agree with Todd here. The word "brotherhood" is a little too exclusive (We actually have female members in the GMLTC). I realize it would be cool to follow along in the same vein as train unions, but I would suggest something like (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I'd love to be the 2nd North Carolina rep (though if Cary or James want's the honor that would also work with me). I have made an effort to be in contact with other groups (just went up to Richmond on Saturday for the 2nd RichLUG meeting for (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: ICLTC
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) What he said. The organisation is a great idea, but I'd rather see Congress than Brotherhood. Why be gratuitously exclusive when it's not necessary? Does this include clubs which don't call themselves LTC's but (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: 'Dog Bone'
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) two. Yep, our VLC show layout last Nov was a dogbone with the doubletracked narrow section going over a causeway and bridge. We mostlty had 2 trains chasing each other around, with a few more in sidings (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Wow, that's kind of surprising to hear. I've been meaning to ask, as this thread has unfolded... Are women allowed in LEGO train clubs, or is it a boys-only thing? --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Count me in, and I agree with James (and your original idea) that IBLTC is the way to go. Has the train nature. ++Lar (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
(...) Exactly. However much you got hammered, I think it would have been worse if you hadn't been upfront about it. That's my thinking anyway. (...) Again, exactly right. If the market (interested people) is there, more than one group can be created (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Pictures of GFLTC at SMRC Train Show - Feb 24 & 25
 
(...) We are working on it, with new web site coming soon and more people wanting to join than I can keep up with. We could become one of the bigger LTC's in the next year. (...) That's cool! I remember talking to Moe at the Tampa show about the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: ....custom designed train
 
(...) All i can say it's a start.I'm hoping it's just the beginning of bigger and better things to come from TLC as far as trains are concerned.There is a long tread on this subject from a couple of days ago here in the trains newsgroup you might (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Pictures of GFLTC at SMRC Train Show - Feb 24 & 25
 
Jacob, I have to give Dennis credit for this one. Adding a elevated loose section is a cool idea that I will be trying my self. Build on... Robin W GFLTC (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: ....custom designed train
 
(...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: ....custom designed train
 
Old news (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
(...) Thanks for you kindness but FYI my name is spelled KAI not the car company. (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
This is a great idea! Sign me up or tell me where to join... Robin Werner Greater Florida LEGO Train Club (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
I would be up to that seeing that the MICHLTC has been gobbled up by Larry Industires. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  It's a P42 (Was: Nice model of a AMD103)
 
Josh, Thanks, that would be my model of a GE B42-9PH (Amtrak calls it a P42). It was on display at SMRC Train Show last weekend. I build it almost a year ago and plan on building a twin one day. See (URL) pictures of it with superliner cars are (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  ....custom designed train
 
I got my new Shop at Home Catalogue the other day, and still disgusted with its content (I'm a true Townie at heart!!! AND if you know anything about Lego lately, you'll know that they decided to stop and discontinue all Town sets (for the moment). (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
Sounds good to me, I've often wonder what other clubs are asking from the shows. And I agree that with the proven popularity of LTCs at shows that promoters are willing to pay reasonable amounts to have them there. Count me in. jt -- James J. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: TeenLTC?
 
(...) OK I am confused... I thought that Kai was posting because he thought that GMLTC was inappropriate because it only covered Minnesotta not the Midwest. I didn't think the argument was about age restrictions at all. Isn't Kai a member of MILTC? (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  TeenLTC?
 
There's been posts by people about not being able to join an LTC because of age requirements. Maybe we should form a "Teen LTC", like the model railroading teen club? I could develop a website at nbci.com (free server, could use other servers too). (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Track to return engine? In English?
 
I was thinking of using 12v track for this kind of thing - running both rails as 0v, and both centre lines moving betweeen +9v..-9v. Dunno if it's worth trying to get hold of all that 12v track, though. Wouldn't need RCX control, but you would need (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
(...) Why are you so mad about not being able to be a member, maybe you "just don't qualify". (...) What if they change the color or background or something (add the "ding", as Vanilla Ice Said on MTV, "its not the same")? Then it wouldn't be your (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Motorized Switch Point
 
I want to find more information about Motorized Switch Point, does anyone has the collection of all works released in web? Br Zhengrong (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Well thats one of the great things about pairlist. You can add yourself and set your options as you wish. It's very easy and simple and its also easy to make sure only members post to it. I manage one and I like it a lot. (...) Definitly, (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G9E3B1.8H5@lugnet.com... (...) not a (...) Okay, I created ibltc@pairlist.net as well so now we can decide and I'll remove which ever we don't want. Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) James,as a proud member of a union (U.A. Local 704 Fire Sprinklers Detroit) international brotherhood sounds good.As a founding member of MILTC i would like to offer my services to this venture.CWLeach (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
"sebarile-MOBL" <steve.e.barile@intel.com> wrote in message news:G9E2pn.748@lugnet.com... (...) icltc@pairlist.net has been created, I will follow up with more data regarding sign up once it filters through the system. Mike -- Mike Walsh - (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
Yes, our rule has always been no minors. We drink a beer with dinner now and again, we talk about mature subjects... all in the context of... I don't ever want to face the day where I stand accused by a minor for anything and I mean this in the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I think I would perfer IBLTC, because the train unions are typically "International Brotherhood of...". I know that the Live Steamers use IBLS (International Brotherhood of Live Steamers). It functions as a volentary overview of the hobby, (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
Great, Fire it up! First one done wins! I have no preferences. Add me to the list and anyone else chime in. We'll need some loose rules, like... 1 or 2 per club - huge groups are hard to come to concenses. It's more for announcements to be filtered (...) (24 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) I also think it's an excellent idea, and I sure someone (me or someone else) from NALUG would be interested in participating. The GATS/Greenburg thing doesn't do us much good, since all the shows up here seem to be independant, but I still (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
(...) Well because you posted the question and referance NELUG twice I thought I should respond. First I hope you don't think NELUG ever lied or tried to cover up the fact that we had an over 18 rule. Quite the opposite in fact which I think is why (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
Please take any further followup to email, Kai (...) No, we're not. I bear you no animosity. I think you have some maturing to do but I have a great deal of respect for what you've achieved in the hobby, given your age. Feel free to dislike me as (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
(...) Steve, I think this is a great idea and I volunteer my services as a NELUG rep. If you want more reps from NELUG I am sure I could get a volunteer or two. Now GATS doesn't come our way but several groups have done Greenberg shows and I am sure (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: GMLTC
 
<...snipped angry tones...> (...) It is much too late. Our first shows happened in 1985. <...More angry tones snipped...> (...) Kia- Sorry you're so upset. Just a FYI on the copyright info. To successfully defend a copyright, I'm pretty sure that (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: IBLTC
 
Pair Networks (who hosts NCLUG.net for me) provides a mailing list service. I can set up a list without any problem. Lists are MailMan based and work well. Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com (URL) - North Carolina LEGO Users Group (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)


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