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Re: ICLTC
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Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:15:53 GMT
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In lugnet.trains.org, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.trains.org, Eric Kingsley writes:
> > In lugnet.trains.org, Todd Lehman writes:
> > > Regardless of being or not being PC, I think it's a sexist, stupid name.
> > 
> > I think this is one of those cases where the few outway the many...
> > 
> > If some people think the name is sexist and stupid (I do as well) then
> > I don't think we should use it.  Being traditional doesn't make it right,
> > besides to any people wouldn't know it was traditional and would/could be
> > offended.  Why have a name we constantly have to defend if we can give
> > ourselves a name that is both meaningful and not controversial.
> > 
> > Again I vote for IOLTC...
> > 
> > Just my $.02
> 
> Well said, Eric!  And I couldn't agree more.  I was written privately by
> someone who was concerned that I was butting into a conversation which I
> had no business butting into.

Well I think you have a right to "butt into" any conversation you want.  LUGNET
is your baby after all.  I think anyone suggesting someone should butt out of a
conversation on LUGNET is rude and uncalled for.

> But since it was taking place (in part) in
> lugnet.org.us.nelug and I'm a NELUG member, it became my business to that
> extent.

Well that was partially my fault :-(.  I did that to bring the tread to the
attention of NELUGer's, I didn't expect my post to become the primary
sub-thread of the discussion so I didn't set follow-ups correctly.  I won't
make that mistake again :-).

> I would be ashamed to belong to an organization with a name
> containing the word "brotherhood" if that organization was not a male-only
> organization, and I would be even more ashamed to see LUGNET's discussion
> groups used as a venue for discussing the organizing of a group under that
> name.  I'm sensitive about sexist stuff (intentional or unintentional) and
> I don't like rationalizations.  That's my own personal feelings.  Somebody's
> gotta stand up and point out what a ridiculous and unnecessarily sexist name
> it would be if women were allowed in.  (Note:  I don't think it would be
> sexist at all if women weren't allowed in, but I'm not suggesting that be
> the case!  :-)

Yah it basically comes down to why be controversial when it isn't necessary.


Eric Kingsley



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(...) Well said, Eric! And I couldn't agree more. I was written privately by someone who was concerned that I was butting into a conversation which I had no business butting into. But since it was taking place (in part) in lugnet.org.us.nelug and (...) (26 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)

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