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Re: IBLTC
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Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:25:46 GMT
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In lugnet.trains.org, John Gerlach writes:
> In lugnet.trains.org, Kevin Wilson writes:
> > Can this include clubs which don't call themselves LTC's but exhibit layouts
> > at train shows, like VLC?
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> > Kevin
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> That is a question that I've been wrestling with. Someone farther up the
> thread put forth the idea that the IOLTC would be used for contacts and
> negotiations with LEGO and LEGO Direct.
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> What sort of negotiations? What would any potential IOLTC member group
> expect to get from LEGO? Free stuff? Discounted stuff? Advice or
> assistance?
All good questions. I guess my answer would be that I "expect" nothing. If
something is worked out so that we got some sort of discount then all the
better but I expect nothing.
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> All of these things have value. So my question becomes "what are you doing
> for LEGO, if you expect LEGO to do something for you?"
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> Every time a group displays a layout at a show, they are providing wonderful
> exposure and promotion for LEGO trains. Should that merit some special
> considerations from LEGO? Maybe, maybe not - you could argue either side.
> If a group of train fanatics get together and call themselves an "LTC",
> should they merit the same considerations?
I think you answer yourself later on this but here are my thoughts.
1. Just calling yourself a LUG or LTC and registering www.XXltc.org shouldn't
mean a thing in terms of any "special considerations". I think that a group
should first show that they can do a show.
2. I don't think you have to do a "Train" Show to be considered. NELUG's
first "show" had almost nothing to do with Trains, it was mostly Star Wars. I
think that should count, it was a public display that got rave reviews, just
because we didn't have trains should exlude us (although we do trains now :).
3. Again it is up to LEGO to decide if we "deserve" anything. I will continue
doing this either way, with or without the help or recognition of TLC.
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> Please take my comments with the necessary grain of salt. I'm a member of
> the GMLTC. We've done many shows, and we've talked to thousands of people
> about LEGO trains. And yes, we've gotten some stuff from LEGO - like a
> mostly expenses paid trip to Carlsbad last Summer! But in my mind, I think
> we've earned some of that through our thousands and thousands of hours of
> work on our layouts, and for our time and expenses when we do shows.
Well we have done a couple LEGO shows and are prepairing for our second train
show so we don't have the experiance you do. We also have not received a thing
from TLC as of yet and we have still been able to build a rather substantial
(in our terms not GMLTC terms) group LEGO collection. We have done this by
making money other ways (see our web site).
So we have become somewhat self sufficiant. Does that mean we shouldn't be
treated the same as other groups that get stuff from TLC? I don't think so.
If other groups are getting things from TLC I personally want to know about it
so we can ask for the same level of treatment based on our relative public
exposure to other groups (now that is something hard to measure).
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> Would I like to see LEGO encourage more LTCs to form? Absolutely! The more
> groups that are out there, the better the environment will be for all of us.
> Would I like to see LEGO support new groups as they prepare for their first
> show? Absolutely! Would I like to see LEGO support a group of trainiacs
> who have no plans to show? I can't say that I would...
I agree with everything you say here.
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> Yea, I'll probably be flamed for this, and I accept that. I just wanted to
> bring up the question of what IOLTC member groups would expect from LEGO...
Why should you get flamed? I thought is was a great, thought provoking thread.
I also think that this is one of the good reasons for a "Private Mailing List".
We know TLC is watching here and we will probably want to discuss some things
without TLC having the oppertunity to see what we are talking about.
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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| (...) Hmm. Well, as a fellow NELUG member, I have to admit that I am rather counter to the idea of a "meta-group" representing NELUG when facing any other organisation, espeically TLC. I am certainly not opposed to seeing some kind of forum where (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| (...) That is a question that I've been wrestling with. Someone farther up the thread put forth the idea that the IOLTC would be used for contacts and negotiations with LEGO and LEGO Direct. What sort of negotiations? What would any potential IOLTC (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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