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Re: ICLTC
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Date: 
Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:02:31 GMT
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In lugnet.trains.org, Eric Kingsley writes:
In lugnet.trains.org, Todd Lehman writes:
Regardless of being or not being PC, I think it's a sexist, stupid name.

I think this is one of those cases where the few outway the many...

If some people think the name is sexist and stupid (I do as well) then
I don't think we should use it.  Being traditional doesn't make it right,
besides to any people wouldn't know it was traditional and would/could be
offended.  Why have a name we constantly have to defend if we can give
ourselves a name that is both meaningful and not controversial.

Again I vote for IOLTC...

Just my $.02

Well said, Eric!  And I couldn't agree more.  I was written privately by
someone who was concerned that I was butting into a conversation which I
had no business butting into.  But since it was taking place (in part) in
lugnet.org.us.nelug and I'm a NELUG member, it became my business to that
extent.  I would be ashamed to belong to an organization with a name
containing the word "brotherhood" if that organization was not a male-only
organization, and I would be even more ashamed to see LUGNET's discussion
groups used as a venue for discussing the organizing of a group under that
name.  I'm sensitive about sexist stuff (intentional or unintentional) and
I don't like rationalizations.  That's my own personal feelings.  Somebody's
gotta stand up and point out what a ridiculous and unnecessarily sexist name
it would be if women were allowed in.  (Note:  I don't think it would be
sexist at all if women weren't allowed in, but I'm not suggesting that be
the case!  :-)

--Todd



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(...) Well I think you have a right to "butt into" any conversation you want. LUGNET is your baby after all. I think anyone suggesting someone should butt out of a conversation on LUGNET is rude and uncalled for. (...) Well that was partially my (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)

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(...) I think this is one of those cases where the few outway the many... If some people think the name is sexist and stupid (I do as well) then I don't think we should use it. Being traditional doesn't make it right, besides to many people wouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org)

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