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Re: Canceled Lego Theme...?
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> Again, your bias shines through.
I certainly won't argue that point... at least not at this time.
> IMO, the holocaust sets are nowhere near art.
but I would assert that there are at least two competing definitions of art:
"art is in the eye of the beholder"
"art is what the artist says is art"
Under the first definition, some beholders find that work to be art and some
do not. Under the second definition, it's clearly art because the artist
said it was.
I tend to favor the first definition myself but did want to point that out.
(oh, and the Brick Testament is indeed mockery! That's the intent, in my
view. And a fine piece of artistic work it is, too. At least to this beholder.)
> Your defensive attitude towards your perceived ideas of Dan's intentions also
> betrays your bias. Typical Liberal-- hypocrisy and double standards.
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| (...) This is a hot button issue for me, because I really dislike a definition of art to be "anything"-- it's useless IMO. (...) An artist can call the sky pink, but that doesn't make it so. More hot buttons:-) (...) I'd bet BPS wouldn't agree with (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I disagree only because I don't see these as competing views! In my view, the artist is no more or less an observer than anyone else, when it comes to viewing/judging/interpreting the work. To that end, "art is what the artist says is art," (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) My favorite definition of art, as coined by Scott McCloud is: Art is that which is created not out of the basic need for survival. I like this definition because it is completely objective. I don't appreciate some art, but that doesn't mean (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That is a result of your pre-conceived notions. You sympathize with PLO terrorists and so you feel it comes off negative. I abhor PLO terrorists and not coincidently, I found it amusing. In the same way, I find mockery in the Brick Testament. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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