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Re: jumping to conclusions
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Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:04:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> These beliefs
> > mean that I oppose the actions of both "PLO terrorists" and the Israeli
> > state. My views on human rights and international law, together with my
> > understanding of recent middle-east history, leads me to sympathize with the
> > Palestinian people, not with "PLO terrorists". I hope you understand the
> > distinction between the two.
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> Sorry, there isn't one. The PLO represent the Palestinians. Whatever the PLO
> does, the Palestinians support them.
*sigh*
> Anyone who supports the actions of
> terrorists is just as culpable as the terrorists themselves.
In 1953, a unit under command of Ariel Sharon, attacked the village of Qibya
in Jordan 60+ were murdered. The day after the attack a UN observer said
that the IDF had forced civilians to stay in their homes whilst they were
demolished around them. Do you support Sharon?
Are there any nations which have not supported terrorists in the past? Your
own? I won't even bother reciting the terrorist groups your nation has
supported in the past.
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> Here's an image for you: Palestinians dancing and celebrating in the streets
> after 9-11. No sympathy here, buster.
Did you ever ask yourself "why"?
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> However, you should understand that I do not
> > blindly oppose Israel – far from it: I believe it does have the right to
> > exist, and it was correct to defend itself in the '67.
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> How big of you to allow a country to defend it's borders and to exist. You are
> one step ahead of the Arab world....
Just where do you get your "news"?
> >
> > I would be grateful if you would review your comments above and either
> > retract or substantiate them.
I did not expect you'd do either... I was correct.
> >
> > >
> > > In the same way, I find mockery in the Brick Testament. You
> > > probably find the BT hilarious.
> >
> > Again, I would love to see the cognitive process your mind went through to
> > reach (jump to) that conclusion. If you had taken the time to look, you
> > would have seen that I have made my views known on BPS's work:
> > http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=14636
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> Guilty as charged-- I haven't time to go searching around for your views on
> things-- as if I cared.
*sigh*
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> > > > For the record, I think Scott was not quite correct. In my opinion, the
> > > > Holocaust sets can be considered to be "art", whereas I feel Dan's intention
> > > > was a jest.
> > >
> > > Again, your bias shines through. IMO, the holocaust sets are nowhere near art.
> >
> > That's correct, they are not Van Gough's... but my kids are not convinced by
> > his work either. But read my words, I said:
> > " can be considered to be "art" "
> > *NOT*
> > " are art "
>
> Would you say that my performance piece "man shooting dog in head" is art?
I can't say I've seen it.
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> > It is my view that they are art, but I'm not about to make you agree with
> > me. I'm willing to respect your view.
> >
> > > Your defensive attitude towards your perceived ideas of Dan's intentions also
> > > betrays your bias. Typical Liberal-- hypocrisy and double standards.
> >
> > Is this the best you can do? Where is the hypocrisy? Where is the double
> > standards?
>
> The double standards is (sic) that BPS's work is seen as legitimate, while Dan's
> is "in jest". Perhaps he *is* being serious. Why would you assume the former?
That is why I said I *feel* Dan's intention was a jest. It is my
*interpretation*. *Not* a statement of fact!
Scott A
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> -John
> >
> > Scott A
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| (...) I did not expect an answer from you on this. The reality is that anyone who did celebrate the loss of life on September-11 probably would view those killed as being supporters of the “Zionist oppressor/aggressor/whatever”. That is, in the same (...) (23 years ago, 21-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: These beliefs (...) Sorry, there isn't one. The PLO represent the Palestinians. Whatever the PLO does, the Palestinians support them. Anyone who supports the actions of terrorists is just as culpable (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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