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Re: Canceled Lego Theme...?
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > For the record, I think Scott was not quite correct. In my opinion, the
> > Holocaust sets can be considered to be "art", whereas I feel Dan's intention
> > was a jest.
>
> Again, your bias shines through. IMO, the holocaust sets are nowhere near
> art.
Well, I gotta go with Scott on this one-- I definitely think the Holocaust
sets were, and were intended to be, art. Controversial art certainly, but
art nonetheless. I get the feeling from Dan that his work was intended to be
silly, and not "art", though I could be wrong.
The holocaust sets (I think) were intended to make you take a look at a very
harsh reality through a medium typically associated with innocence,
colorfulness, and happiness. IE through a child's eyes.
I mean, watch a child play with toy guns and kill the "bad guys"-- it's
rather similar. The main difference being that adults dismiss a child
playing with action figures as pure fantasy. Most of us in today's world
would look at that child playing and killing his fantasy soldiers and pass
it off as normal.
The holocaust is, in contrast, a blatent reality. Try imagining children
playing with the holocaust sets... Asking their parents if they can get the
large concentration camp set and being told "maybe for Xmas" or something
similar. It's very difficult to equally dismiss such a vision as 'normal',
and it forces imagery that perhaps we all should see in the former example.
If you ask me, it brings to mind a very sad, bleak, twisted vision of
reality. And that's art-- evoking a reaction through creation. That reaction
can be humor, sorrow, happiness, contentment, shame, or, in this case,
something you might not otherwise have felt. It may not be something you
enjoy feeling-- and if that's true, or if you don't feel anything as a
result, you can say you can't appreciate that art. But I'd still call it
art-- because that was its intent.
And of course I again agree with Scott on the Jihad 'theme'. I don't think
it was intended to be as 'artsy' (though one could still call it that), but
instead comedic. Perhaps had he not titled it as a "Cancelled Lego Theme" I
might have called it more of an art... But as is I think I'd say it was
intended as humor.
$.02,
DaveE
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| (...) That is a result of your pre-conceived notions. You sympathize with PLO terrorists and so you feel it comes off negative. I abhor PLO terrorists and not coincidently, I found it amusing. In the same way, I find mockery in the Brick Testament. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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