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[The Real Hal Moore]¬ Interview of Lt. General Harold G. Moore by William F. Jasper (URL) recount the bitter anger and frustration that you and others in the military felt concerning the decisions in Washington to allow the Communist forces to have (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Very good quote. Essentially saying let someone else think and act for me. There have got to be better ways to achieve anti-terrorism goals than promoting fear and division. I wonder how events would have played out post 9/11 had a less (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, but Clinton remembered one thing, "It's the economy, stupid." People knew that Nixon was a mean man, not an honest man. But they felt he could run the country. Clinton could run the country: not one of your complaints about him precludes (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Article 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights. Would they license a horse? Don't they license motorcycles and bikes? Aren't the roads called "rights of way." We all have the right to travel -- this was recognized as early as Magna Carta in the common (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Shrub has been AWOL and everything about his "military" career was protected and sanctified by Daddy Shrub himself -- give it a rest. It's all well covered up and with the appropriate gloss of "spin", just like his drug and alcohol record. So, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Totally on the same page with John--driving's a priviledge, not a right, and getting a drivers license, as it stands today in many areas, is getting your picture taken such that when and if (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Please cite in the Constitution this "right". (...) Bus, train, taxi, airplane, unicycle, bicycle, tricycle, Segway; take your pick. (...) How about theft? (...) Yet another conspiracy? (...) Are you kidding me??? You are asking the state to (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Man if I don’t log on for just one day some of these posts just get buried by others. (...) I just had to address this statement. It actually reminded me of the way I felt about Clinton during his presidency. In 1992 when he was first elected I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Allow me to correct myself: a driver's license is specifically enumerated as not a right in California. Other states may be different, though I don't specically know of any that vary from that. The right to travel is in no way prohibited. You (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Weapons Of Mass Disappearance The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong - or manipulated? (URL) Where are Iraq’s WMDs? The message was plain: Saddam’s weapons of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, because his ineffective attempt to deal with Saddam involved the mere launching of 100s of cruise missiles at Iraq. But how can you even make that assertion? What if he had taken bold action after the first attack on the WTC? His limp (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "The truth"??? Are you alleging that the Left has a corner on the truth? Your arguments are all about half truths through character assassination, conspiratorial innuendo, and dishonesty. That you quote the Bible merely adds to the irony which (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There is no point of comparison between oral sex between consenting adults and mass murder/war crime on the scale that occurred in Iraq. A Slick Willy did not cost us even one American life. I grieve for the unjustified soldiers lost in Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It gets to the point when I almost hesitate to click on the BBC link... in fear of what other atrocity may surface regarding the 'most powerful man in the world' directing the 'most powerful nation in the world'. But there are those who would (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, is true that a welfare society does seem to have this very issue--simgle moms having more kids to get more money, and that should be dealt with... Here's a thought-- Better education. But I'm just throwing off the top of my head here... (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The part I always appreciate is the "empty attacks" which, thus far, are totally un-refuted and are still standing out there waiting for *any* type of response. Shooting the messenger by calling him a 'whining moron' and equating the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a debate forum-- perhaps try your luck in .fun, or .tiredliberalpropoganda... JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: snip (...) That statement is patently false! It comes from the rich's own pocket! Get your facts straight, you socialist in sheep's clothing. (...) Tax Credit = $$$ give away. Explain to me why I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sheesh! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I STRONGLY disagree. Post on, Koudys!!! Let the truth set us free and shut up the Willfully Ignorant, Ugly American. -- Hop-Frog (a Rainbow-Coloured Beautiful American, Chaotic and Free!) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, I find this a sticking point. I believe the right to travel by common conveyance is a right. If it were otherwise I'd be stuck at home unless I were willing to obtain whatever license is necessary to travel -- and then my right to travel (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, Dave, I think we got it after the 10th time you said it-- you think George Bush is a moron and a liar and should be removed. Time to move on, because now you are starting to sound like the moron with your constant repetitious whining. (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't worry, Mr.Koudys. We've got your information. -J. Ashcroft (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One of them will probably be me 'cause I won't keep quiet on the contempt I hold for Dubya and his moronic, boldfaced lieing actions. So add me to yer lists FBI dudes, and know that I stand for freedom of expression--your boss is an idiot who (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Responding to my own posts, 'cause, well, I can... The differnce b/w the BBC website and the CNN website-- BBC News - Americas (URL) which the top stories are concerning the WMD investigation " US Senate opens Iraq weapons probe A Congressional (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Boy, Dave, you just don't comprehend the subtleties of the American Justice System! There's no requirement that the detainee be "not American" in order to be held indefinitely without access to due process. All that's necessary is for the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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We can do whatever we want and offer no apologies... (URL) it's a great day for news...) " The report looks into the cases of 762 people who were living in the US illegally and were detained in the 11 months following the attacks. " and the part (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) US Congress has ordered an investigation into possible abuse of intelligence information about alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. " later.. " "To date, you have offered no explanation as to why you and your most senior advisers made (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have a read of this: Now dissent is [immoral]: (URL) nation is now at war," said Peter Beinart, the editor of the liberal magazine New Republic. "And in such an environment, domestic political dissent is immoral without a prior statement of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Having an entity in theory such as the ACLU is probably a Good Thing®, but the extreme, agenda-driving wackos currently running it make it a liability. As you say, any idiot can see that this case has absolutely nothing to do with religious (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm very glad the ACLU is there to take the case. I must say, I hope they lose, and I presume they will since a driver's license is not a right, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that they took the case. Without the ACLU, all we would (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry' it's (URL) a Canadian thing and all... sorry for any confusion Dave K (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, we have a situation in Toronto where a 10 year old girl disappeared and the next day was found in pieces in a bag on Toronto Island--the police wanted to take DNA samples of all previously convicted pedophiles in the area and some (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm afraid I let my personal feelings out a bit-- I'm still reeling from the news that the ACLU deciding to defend that Florida women who wants her driver's license photo ID taken with her veil on. We face more danger to our republic from our (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I almost fell outta my chair! If it was a type-o it's really funny. If it's intended, it's still equally as funny! Perfectly said, John! Dave K (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Moooon River! "Hey Doc, you got the whole fist up there?" JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I am not particularily concerned, because even if that worse-case scenario were to come about, the control wouldn't affect the WWW, where IMO the future of the exchange of information lies. Let's face it, any news source is biased whether they (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, no. I think John is on the right (alimentary) track here. Lawyers and enemas both try and get in the same place. :-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Naw, that's no good. Enemas are supposed to provide at least *some* relief. Dave! (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: <snip> (...) Ah, now we are starting to talk about the real enema here;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hooo boy. The Register is far, far to the right. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. Honestly, they both reflect the counties they are in. (...) I gotta agree with this assessment (see above). (...) Conservative: pro laissez-faire, (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Your Rights: Use 'Em or Lose 'Em" (URL) if currently proposed legislation - PATRIOT Act II - passes, you may no longer even be a citizen. Under PATRIOT II, if you attend a legal protest sponsored by an organization the government has listed as (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Larry. We know what your stated views are with regard to IP: From: (URL) ==+== I saw his column today in the Grand Rapids Press. So I thought I'd share it with you. But of course to just cut and paste it in here is copyright (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My favourite place to debate is the pub, but that's another story. ;) (...) I tend not to trust US media due to its “liberal” bias and its blind support for all things Bush... ;) (1) Here's a couple of quotes for you: Two 'clean' trucks - the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm very much on the same lilly pad as Sir Frog here. I've become EXTREMELY uncomfortable in the years since I've watched the Bush dynasty flourish. It all makes a thinking American either very paranoid or disdainful of the American system's (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, I actively dislike Shrub. I hope that is very clear, no dodging necessary. I think he is the worst president we have had in my lifetime (which is to say the last 40 years or so). And I hope he is actually the idiot that I think he may be (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I need to remember to put my smily face when I am kidding. No I don't believe the sweeping generalization that all media is biased. My two favorite papers, the Orange county register and the San Bernadino Sun times are both right of center, (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Such an attack is usally groundless and proffered by a person that has no idea what the "left" is really about. The all encompassing "media" is hardly "left." Offhand, I'd say Costello has no real knowledge of "left" or "right" -- I hear a lot (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sort of. I said it was my fear, and a likely outcome, but not a certainty. At least that's the way I *prefer* to remember it. Peace-loss probability is increasing, in my view, that's for sure. Plus I can't take credit for coining the phrase by (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A. I'm actually in favor of less taxation, but that it is not the way our system is currently structured and I am not going to hold my breath waiting for a change. B. I don't want to get mired in a discussion about what is 'income' v. 'capital' -- (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Peace, love, man! :-) (...) Moore is entertaining, kinda like that beacon of The Liberal Media, Rush Limbaugh. And in the same way. ;-) Not that Moore's veracity is the question here, rather that there are those in the media already (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tsk. Someone from southern california and he doesn't mention the Orange County Register. The Long Beach paper is (was? it's been a while since I've seen it) conservative. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. The New York Times: who (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For a while... but not for long. Do your research. Confiscatory taxes kill off growth. (...) Not for long. Once the rich were mined out, what then? (...) Depends on what you mean. Do I want to see otherwise virtuous people who had some (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First off I thought everyone was generally shooting from the hip, our debate points here on a message board dedicated to fans of Lego aren’t going to change policy. Most of my politically “like minded” friends laugh at me when I tell them that (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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You decide whom to trust on the "war on terror". Bush today: "This is a time for all of us to unite in the defence of liberty, and to step up to the shared duties of free nations." Amnesty International this week: "In the name of security, politics (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It sounds to me like you are shooting from the hip. Can you support your claims? Scott A (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Can't he be both? (...) I always find it strange that people like Rumsfeld are not elected. He appears to be accountable to no one. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Moore complains about it because Dubya's economy plans are more profitable to the riches than to poor. Also, I'd say that his point of view on the problems that USA are dealing with is more accurate and intelligent than Dubya could ever (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I am a bit concerned, and agree with you here. I think programming has long been homogenized. However, I rarely see the pro conservative agenda being advanced. My main concern is the lack (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow, I don't check OTD for a couple of days and I miss an uninterupted anti-Bush love fest. (...) Yes, let us not forget that bastion of truth Michael Moore (end sarcasm), I am not completely sure if he is a deliberate liar, or if he genuinely (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (pondering actions of Bush) Both? -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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While file-sharing enthusiasts debate the draconian powers of the DMCA, and while slack-jawed-America-at-large watches the Laci Peterson case and an avalanche of pro-war journalism, a minor piece of legislation is being prepared for a vote on June (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And do you consider that to be the cause or the consequence of your reply? :-P Pedro (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Now, his administration as a whole I think is a blatant, barefaced (or [bold], if you prefer), bunch of power-hungry liars. (...) I rather imagine Robert Scheer and Michael Moore (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I hadn't meant it in that way, but now that you mention it.... -->Bruce<-- (ahhhhh! I replied to Scott! The world is coming to an end) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've never seen it discussed here, but the excellent radio program This American Life ran a story on it recently: (URL) that link doesn't work, go to (URL) and look for the episode titled "Regime Change" from 4/18/03. Critics sometimes look (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and all the tainted & subsidised crops that the EU consumers won't buy are being dumped on the developing world... to the ruin of farmers there. It will get worse if the US ever starts labelling GM products (which I think it should). (...) (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well it looks like those involved won't be taking any holidays in Spain for a while: US soldiers face war crime charge (URL) ==+== The family of a Spanish television cameraman killed when a US tank opened fire on the Palestine hotel in Baghdad (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thus full circle, bringing back the idea of the UN and it's 'un'failure. Of course, some would say that the *only* reason why Iraq's supposed WoMD were destroyed at all was the imminent threat of the US military action. I would not be one of (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and thus complied with res 1441? Scott A (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you mean the neo-conservatives in the USA? ;) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well so says Paul Wolfowitz (Deputy Defence Secretary): WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz (URL) ==+== The Bush administration focused on alleged weapons of mass destruction as the primary justification for toppling Saddam (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and now "intelligence" suggests Iran is a problem... Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It tells me that a television show these days must entertain as well as educate. Unfortunately no matter how hard I try to get my son to watch this show, he simply will not. He has been able to read since he was three, but finds this show (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"The case for war is blown apart" (URL) leaves no doubt that Iraq continues to possess and conceal lethal weapons" -- George Bush, US President 18 March, 2003 "We are asked to accept Saddam decided to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Egypt Withdraws from WTO GM Complaint" (URL) delighted that Egypt has withdrawn from this US attempt to force GM food and crops into Europe. Countries should be allowed to choose what they eat and what they grow in their fields. The United States (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"'Reading Rainbow' fights for survival" (URL) YORK (AP) -- In a plea for the life of "Reading Rainbow," host LeVar Burton returned to a familiar setting: the stage where he picked up the PBS show's seventh Emmy Award for best children's television (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But...but...it was a great victory! We kicked a dictator's hairy butt! Never mind it cost us a bazillion dollars! Never mind that all the religious zealots are coming out of the woodwork and want to run Iraq. Ooooooo, when did all this cute (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You should know better than that, Scott! You can't quote the Guardian here and 'xpect folks to heed! Beyond that, I've noticed that the new 'Merican Media expression (the 'old' one was "SH will use these non-existant WoMD near the end of the (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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US finds evidence of WMD at last (URL) good news for the Pentagon yesterday was that its investigators had finally unearthed evidence of weapons of mass destruction, including 100 vials of anthrax and other dangerous bacteria. ==+== Scott A (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Joining any party is a compromise. The party system has its good points, but most of the time I wish I were governed by individuals rather than parties stuffed full of "yes-men". (...) If the electorate paid more attention, it would not be (...) (21 years ago, 26-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I wasn't really holding the guy up for sainthood, mind you -- there not being too many politicians on the side of the angels. I agree with your assessment of politics as usual. If Byrd is making a bid for a soundbite, at least I am not disagreeing (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) just have to get me a set of those. :-) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Let's try this again. "The Truth Will Emerge..." (URL) truth will emerge"... more like "the PORK will emerge". Byrd may be right about Iraq, for the most part. Unnecessary war, and what appears to be a bungling of the aftermath in a much more (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not exactly. That append got posted before it was finished, my bad. I'll FUT in a sec, including the rest of what I meant to say.... (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't see much wrong with a senator appropriating funds 'n stuff for his district--aren't senators suppose to do that? Especially this one, which seems not only good for his district, but good for America. I like Richard's link a little (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The Truth Will Emerge..." (URL) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> He saved his life, didn't he? :-) JOHN (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A few years ago I had a professor who told this tale, which I recount now as close to verbatim as I am able to recall. Any distortion is due to my poor recollection and shouldn't reflect upon the original story. During grad school my future (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"The Truth Will Emerge" (URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I just received an e-mail offering 27,800,000 e-mail IDs for me to Spam [I expect I'm one of them]. The offer did contain two interesting [if true] "facts": ==+== 1) 41% of Consumers Believe Email is a Good Way to Find out About New (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oh my! It appears Bush's weapons inspectors are having no luck finding SH's WOMD. Perhaps when they return to the USA they can be tasked to find some of the stuff the Pentagon has lost; the headliners: + > 1 trillion dollars + 56 airplanes + 32 (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is a generalisation. A few years ago I would have disagreed with it strongly, but day-by-day your great country is moving further and further down that path. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 20,000+ of them in one place? Does anyone else find themselves thinking of the Golgafrincham's Ark B? Cheers Richie Dulin (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think that I'd favor a combination of your two definitions, but I must admit that my own definition is hardly ironclad. I'd offer something like this: Tolerance is, at the very least, the acceptance of others without pre-emptively judging (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You assume I disagree? (...) I'll take that as a "no". I must confess to liking this: (URL) (...) Do you have any evidance which supports that? WW2 was largly a christian effort; the result was 60 million dead. Extreme interpretations of Islam (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"State monitored war protesters: Intelligence agency does not distinguish between terrorism and peace activism By Ian Hoffman" (URL) There had been some very shocking photos that original went with this article but they seem to have disappeared. In (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think that first sentence is an overstatement. Israel does not have clean hands, nor does the U.S. We are not as bad as some, but we are hardly innocent any longer. In fact, we (the U.S.) are brazenly guilty of atrocities. The U.S. operates (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Will you characterize any source with which you disagree as a "rag"? (...) Tangental. (...) The point is that it *isn't* the US and Israel for Muslims. I would say that the root of Islamic terrorism (and the evil in this war on terrorism) is (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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