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(...) Say what one will about the challenges and problems now facing South Africa, but they knew that the very first thing they needed to do with the 1996 census was *eliminate* any category of race or ethnicity on the forms. Granted, they're much (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wrong: (URL)- That said, I don't ever *intend* to take the side of an oppressor. You (...) Others are. As I understand it, a report is about to be published which will lay much of the blame on Israel: Report condemns Israeli expansion (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. You were asked for a definition after your sentenced terrorists to an arbitrary fate. But then it turned out you were a little muddled about what a terrorist is. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then, my friend, you are chosing the PLO to be the "far worse" shade when, factually and morally, it is totally opposite. Stop lumping things together and believing the Zionist propaganda about the Intifadah (the uprising of Palistinian (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No trouble on that front. As far as I know all of my friends have totally no problems with it, and are being really supportive. Some of my acquintances are being a little funny about it, but then again, there's a reason why they're just (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Be proud of that country, no matter what it is... (...) Hear hear. I think it's a testimony to your upbringing (that is, to your parents) and your own inner strength that you have risen above the prejudices of others, for the most part, (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Three part answer: - I'm not taking sides when I say one side is worse than the other... we are talking shades of black, after all, not black vs. white. - Oppressor is such a loaded word, really. You haven't demonstrated that either side in (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. We leave it blank (along with a lot of other stuff like how many bathrooms we have and other marketing research kind of stuff...) on the census form. This has earned us a followup visit the last two times. ++Lar (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ideally: I want to live in a world where we wouldn't have a question like this. Reality: That still isn't the world we live in, but the world is what we make of it! :) I am proud to say that I am the fine product of all three factors: Arab father / (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops, sorry if I left you hanging on that question, I thought it was rhetorical. I believe the dictionary would use the literal meaning as "one who instills terror in others." Perhaps a bit too general for an America that prefer's having (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup, SAT 9 (Chino Hills). They just finished yesterday. My son's teacher pointed out to him how to indicate both. They still want the kid to make a choice with that "most identifies with" bit, so with luck I screwed up the computer scan by (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simple question: Why do you take the side of the oppressor? Divorce that from the context too. Dan (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't call that progress, I call that moving BACKWARDS. The question simply shouldn't be there AT ALL. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We've been doing standardized testing for the past couple of weeks here in California, and I noticed on the form the students had to fill out that there are now two complete sections provided for the students to indicate their race or (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Society does it's best to enforce that outcome - I always get steamed when my son comes home from school with one of those "mark only one" forms under "race" (I always disobey the rule and point out to my son why I'm doing it). At least the (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They have extra added baggage, some of it silly, some of it serious (inter-religious and kids, for example). Friends' disapproval will require you to be prepared to win them over or jettison your friends or your love interest. Parental (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes: <snip> I appreciate your concern for my morals and my tax dollars. However... I want to stay narrow and not specific to this issue. What is a terrorist? Divorce it from the context. I gave a (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yeah, my mom-in-law just sends money, since she KNOWS I'll find the best price on Lego ;-) (...) Corp | iPlanet Support - (URL) A division of AOL Time Warner | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your internal notion is your paradigm of world issues, including what you consider to be a terrorist. You have formed this paradigm through whatever media you've accepted as "the truth"...whether it is ABC, CNN, or newspapers, magazines or (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, that just means this: What if, in the definition wording, we changed "as a way" to "as a primary way"... the shorthand comes in because c/xx/yy/ is an editor command in several old skool line editors to effect a change of xx to yy. When (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's pretty funny, because my M-I-L is the same way. My In-laws sent me the the UCS X-Wing for X-Mas. How's that for good relationships? :^D ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I didn't follow that last bit: "c/as a way/as the primary way/ ??" I am not familiar with all of the internet shorthand yet. To answer your question about my definition of terrorism, I can only say that the popular use of the term (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have only one thing to say about this entire thread-to each his own. -Harvey (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I hope it's all as correct as I think it is! :) (...) You and I both. It's especially shameful for me, because it's my *job* to know the Empire--but the big problem is that the research and writing just haven't been done yet, and that's done (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think this is intended to apply only to the info about you... or so the interpretation seems to be. I don't think it means you certify everything you post is true, else April Fool pranks would be against the ToS. IANTL (1) but I think what I (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, then, there may be some flaw in the definition as that is an unexpected result. Let's dig in a bit. What makes ALL of these guys terrorists? (some might be, I suppose). What is your definition of terrorism? What if we c/as a way/as the (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Knowing yourself is nice, but better to leave this to other readers..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am always reasonable. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I see, you can be quite reasonable when it is for your advantage, right?..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppoose that reflects your biased standpoint. I found it rather depressing. I am sure sites are out there which can show the "other side" which would be just as bad. (...) Don't be too hard on Larry on this - he can't help being (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppoose that reflects your biased standpoint. If found it rather depressing. I am sure sites are out there which can show the "other side" which would be just as bad. (...) Don't be too hard on Larry on this - he can't help being (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No distortion Larry. Just facts. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's just dandy though it doesn't stand to reason why you'd take the side of the oppressor? If that's your attitude, I can only say that I strongly feel you are choosing to fill your head with the garbage the mainstream media would (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't hold your breath. I don't respond to every distortion Scott slings, or even very many of them, actually. (...) by my characterisation of the PLO as far worse. ++Lar (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I feel lucky - I get along with my mom-in-law VERY well. In fact, in some ways, better than my mom. I'm not saying I don't get along with my mother, I do, I'm just saying in SOME ways, my mom-in-law thinks along the same vein as I do whereas my (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not if they're sisters or brothers.... :-) :-) Frank (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, thats as good an argument against it as I've ever heard. ;D Jeff (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know the punishment for polygamy is more than one mother-in-law. Scott (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And we're still waiting to hear his explanation for that statement. While we're waiting: (URL) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And we're still waiting to hear his explanation for that statement. While were waiting: (URL) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd disagree with that one...the reason why I moved it to .debate was to take it out of being a single club issue. The fact is that _all_ clubs have the same potential problem, and as such, I felt it belonged outside of .michlug, and in (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James, the point has been all messed up. My point was that I thought Larry was trying to dictate what the cub can or cannot do. I WAS NOT debating on the use of the Michlug “logo”. I have said many times that I don’t care if the “logo” is there or (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All right informal is fine with me. I’m glad this is coming to an end. I would like to thank everyone for they’re patience in this matter. I defiantly agree to keep this informal in order to keep the club together. I also thank everyone who is still (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This time your apology is indeed appropriate and I accept it, thank you. I'd prefer to let this go now. (...) So far our club has operated on consensus rather than formal structure. That seems to work (and seems to be the preference of the (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seriously, I'm not sure what you mean: do you really want to debate the mediocrity of American culture? Since I've never been to Australia (and, obviously, have therefore never spent an appreciable amount of time there), my judgments as to the (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Linday: First, I'd like to say that I appreciate all of the information. I'm quite interested in the role that nations such as Australia and Canada played in the theater of the World Wars, chiefly because I'm afraid to say that I know quite little (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I will apologize once more to you Larry. I didn’t realize you were voicing your opinion about this. I took it as ordering the club to do something. Some how I wish we could vote on whether or not we should use the Michlug “logo”. But before we (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Intifadeh (1979) actually refers to the open uprising against Israel by the population, not terrorist actions per se. The people throwing stones and bottles at tanks and soldiers are the symbol of the intifadeh, not snipers or car bombs or the (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The only case I can think of that might address this question is the US Civil War. Europe walked an amazing tightrope then, in part to avoid upsetting the balance of Europe internally-- although Britain recognised "belligerent rights" with (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In short, the industrial base of the serpent's head was there. The United States could easily take Japan in a fair fight, but an Axis-controlled Europe was a much more dangerous nut that needed cracking. Once pressure was off Britain, huge (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is that the thing where Israel have shot dead a bunch of kids, bombed homes and carried out assasinations? How does that show the PLO is "far worse"? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Point taken. Of course, Australia has never been in a position to establish world-wide military and economic hegemony. I'm not saying it has been wrong of the US to do so, but while the moral and political questions are similar the global (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And....? I believe intifadah means "uprising" so what are the Palistinians rising up against? Still wondering how the PLO is "far worse" than the Israeli government? Here's some food for thought: (URL) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Lar, I read your post about what a terrorist is: "I would tend to say it's a person or group using violence against bystanders as a way to make a political point or get a political outcome." By your definition, here's a list of "terrorists" for you: (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *Now* we're getting somewhere, and you may be surprised to learn that on this point you and I are in complete agreement! A non-guvmint-funded club is absolutely free to accept or reject members as it sees fit; it can refuse membership on basis (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The intifadah. ++Lar (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good question. I gave my definition in this post: (URL) about the second or third para down. To your point about soldier==terrorist and vice versa, I agree that the perception sometimes runs that way. But that's at least in part an effect of a (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am trying to let this all slide by, because, by my read of the traffic in .michlug, there is a consensus among the MICHLUG members that have spoken up on the specific issue. That consensus is exactly what I hoped it would be... It is not (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is right. However, I have seen at least 3 people post saying that they are not 100% about MichLUG _as a club_ doing this show. This is not limiting your options, go form Mich_Cath_LUG if you really want to, that would acchive the same (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay Dave, Now let’s talk about freedom. Clubs in the United States are FREE to do what they wish. If the club is a private club then it should be FREE to endorse what ever it chooses. If the club wants to reject members it has every right to do so. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) James far as i'm concerned you hit the nail on the head about this whole subject.We just want to have fun and show off our bricks. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then you undeniably don't realize what I'm debating, either. Once again, I couldn't care less about MICHLUG per se; I'm discussing the problem of implicit endorsement by a club, not all of whose members share the same attitudes, interests, or (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Those have long been a problem. I can agree with respect to "UK" not being the common usage; however, the official usage dates from that period, and in the records it's standard from 1800 even when the records are informal (although the (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is no reason why any of the above are wrong. All humans are compatible, given the right circumstances. Personally, i doubt that i'd marry someone who was not already of my faith before we met because the particular sort of compatibility (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've been trying to resist chiming in on this topic, but I wanted to add my two cents and share a recent experience with a local church. A few months back there was a post in the LUGNET local Atlanta Georgia (USA) newsgroup from a person looking to (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) America should not have invaded Vietnam. My question involving Australia's involvement in Vietnam was rhetorical. My point was that America isn't the only nation to have gone to war in modern times for reasons that are not for clear- cut (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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To all, I don’t think Scott needs to apologize for anything. If the local food store (Meijer in my case) would give food to the Catholic Church to feed poor people. Would that mean Meijer is endorsing the Catholic Church? What it means is that (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
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(...) I thought this was supposed to be hypothetical, not rhetorical... =oP Plus I plead the 5th, or maybe the 9th -- whatever gets me out of the trouble of having to answer this one... (...) Did he really write this? Was this the motivation behind (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All of this depends on our definition of "terrorist". The best example I can give us is George Washington. We see him as an American hero, a general who led soldiers against an oppressive British monarchy. Now, the British saw him as a (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please define "terrorist". Dan (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And that remark doesn't show your bias? Please be so kind as to explain to all of us why the PLO is "far worse"... Dan (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Still my point is your jumping in a debate with no knowledge of what is happing. You do not have a history of being a member of Michlug and having to deal with issues, which I’m referring to. So you’re starting a debate out of ignorance. THIS IS NOT (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From distant memories of my School boy History. There was. Japan actually bombed the North of Oz a few times (Darwin?). The Oz Government had a plan only to defend an internal triangle which I think was almost Melbourne - Brisbain - Cairns. I (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, this is an honest question, although somewhat rhetorical, but I mean no affront: Why, then, did Australia fight in the World Wars and in Vietnam with America? I understand the historical relationship between the UK and Australia, and yes, (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tony: As you may be aware, anyone on LUGNET can become involved in any discussion on LUGNET, within the strictures of the relevant posting groups. Since .debate is an off-topic forum, and since the .debate is about larger issues than your club (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It could be a good argument for polygamy/polyandry. ;) Jeff (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I will reply to you. Dave! I don’t know where you came from. The questions I asked were for Larry not you. You jump in here like you’re a part of something. If Michlug decided to put a show on for the KKK. I would not go. I’m not going to make (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please elucidate; such education as would seem to be necessary requires a fundamental restructuring of one side's world view, and can be perceived as colonial indoctrination by the restructured party. (...) Interesting, but I'm not convinced (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that both teams didn't use the *same* wrong units. 8^) Dave! (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... by building homes on the land which does not belong to them for immigrants from eastern Europe? The people who were causing trouble in London yesterday were the children of the British middle class. Their idea of suffering is haveing to (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And this is the point the Palestinians need to understand. So long as they threaten Israel, Israel can do nothing less than take steps to assure the safety of its people. Unfortunately, sometimes the only way to make sure you are safe from (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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To All, Well, since I am a laughing stock to the community now, I guess I will respond. (...) Because it was a MichLUG item, that's why, and it got dragged here. < Snipped rest of post > yes, I see. Well, after talking with Larry, and seeing some of (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
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(...) Nonsense. Terrorism can are be perpitrated against a state. Groups such as the IRA worked that killing "bystanders" is bad PR. So they attack the state : Police, Army, & the Post Office(!). Recently the IRA have taken to apologising when (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How about when one side is a nation that says it wants to exterminate a certain religion's adherents and the other side is an almost weaponless group of members of that religion in the inner city of an occupied capital of a country that nation (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then why reply to them? (...) -no, what I am _not_ in favor of is having a non religious group become religious because of a minority opinion. I said, (...) (from .debate 10087) (...) What I wrote (I'm not sure you read it was: (...) -please (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
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(...) I assume you live in the USA. Does your economy, some would argue, not owe a lot to slavery, exploitation of native Americans, pillaging of the developing world by multi-nationals and destruction of the global environment? I could well say to (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a very good point. I took the time on Sunday to watch a programme about a so called "hero of libertarian America" - Rany Weaver. From a UK perspective this guy appeared to nothing better that a moron with a gun. However, I could not (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The point I think I am failing to acknowledge is that Britain’s past is any justification for Israel to torture and murder today. Although, I am sure it would make a very convenient defence / smokescreen. (...) Yes, but considering the past is (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. But is was not until more recently untail it came into common usage. Most of the the world still refers to the UK as Britain, or more annoyingly England. (...) I do not doubt what you are saying. However, I have to say that the same (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Education. (...) It worked for a while in Spain. It is working in NI. It worked in south africa. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually I always think, a relationship is the business of only two people who directly involved, and *nobody* has a right to say anything about it. It's a pure personal thing. Unfortunately, an awful load of bystanders around you and your (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I tend to agree. It is very hard to maintain an identity in more than one race or culture. My observation is that children with parents of different races often end up identifying with one race over the other(s), but not without a feeling that (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) On the personal level it's not so important. In Australia (metric for thirty years or so) people's height and (less often) weight is still usually described in imperial units. On the organisational level using the wrong units can waste over (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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To All, FUT to lugnet.org.us.michlug I am posting this to debate once, I will not follow through to it here (And if you don't like it, too bad), so if you want to respond to specific MichLUG items, please place it there in orgs.michlug. Otherwise, (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
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(...) i want to print up stickers with this saying on it... :) thanks! -chris (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, this is a very hard question to answer in the hypothetical without more specifics, so I leave it to you to pose a more detailed hypothetical should you choose to do so. Given the real world instance of the nations of Israel and (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting how? If you don't mind expanding on that... -Shiri (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. Initial attraction is great but unless you have a basis of trust, understanding etc. to build on, there are not many places you can go from there. (...) Interesting point. (...) Well, being a romantic, I believe in one true love. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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