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I downloaded, and tried it. Didn't seem to help IE5 much. Also, the "Save As" went a bit flaky, wouldn't reliably save files. Sorry I don't have more detail, I could work on it a bit more. Steve (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You *don't* want to use a VB-based program as an installer. Before a VB program can run, all the VB-runtime files have to be installed. This means that the setup program has to install multi-megabytes of *system* files before the user sees (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) If we're going to talk money, we should - Decide on a name for the group - Pick some bylaws - Elect a treasurer Once we've got a treasurer, that person can obtain an account, and deal with collections and payments. Steve (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The general public wouldn't know if it's a CD or CD-R. The only way to tell is (a) your obsolete CD drive can't read CD-R disks (b) you have a CD-R(W) drive or software which reports the type of the disc. Steve (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. POV-Ray description files could possibly handle step-wise construction by playing with the timer (clock?), a feature used to produce animation files. I haven't played much with POV-Ray since I took up LDraw, especially not authoring (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You mean we gotta wait? Oh, that is *so* unfair! In other words: I can't wait! :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I added transparency. You can see how it comes out rendered on a RAGE II+ (my original G3/233 or anything newer.) I took some pictures of 3823.dat (2x4x2 windscreen). And I accidentally made a 30% translucent Car.. the one you were complaining the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I didn't know how transparency is coded for in a DAT file so I didn't write any code to handle it--it would be simple enough to translate. A lot of polygons fail to reflect light because I was not sure about surface normals. My program just (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) goes (...) Hmmm, so your program generates its own render code? The examples on your site look a little crunchy. I can't tell, is it rendering transparent parts at all? It looks like it is making them black. Since I tend to make trmendously (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I played with the QuickTime tools and my converter last night. The process goes like this: Process a DAT file with LTrans.pl (my program) to get a .3dmf file (8k) Use 3D Movie Maker on that to get a .mov file (8k) At this point you have a QuickTime (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) step (...) Thanks, Erik! I'll look into the conversion to QTVR. The only way I've done it is by feeding the QTVR Builder an image matrix of individual frames, but it only stands to reason that QTVR can convert from a QT movie... but then, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I just put a patched ldlite on my site. The repackaged binary is at (URL) the source is at (URL) someone confirms that these actually work then I'll add them to the main ldglite page there. This version should work with paths with space characters (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Another nice thing about LDraw type programs is that you see the model being built as it renders, unlike POV, where you just see the final image. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Paul: (...) Yes (what a mess). As a mathematician and physicist I prefer right-hand rectangular coordinate systems with the first two coordinates (x and y) in the plane and the last coordinate (z) having the positive direction up. The units should (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I have written a straight-to-QuickTime converter for DAT files. I don't know about making a QTVR file, but, it makes a 3DMF file which you convert in 1 step to a MOOV. The movie rotates the model in realtime in any QuickTime player. I am pretty (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Does anyone have the code for/how to render LDraw models. I want to be able to make a Visual Basic program. Any help would be nice. Adam (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) There is an exe file that microsoft publishes that contains the core vb runtime dll files. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) How much of a pain? Can it be as simple as a window prompting them to give approval to add them? Or is it much more painful than that? (...) Sounds good, we'll have a better picture of what's needed as far as a menu goes when resources are (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Thanks. I never thought of that. One thing I know, though, I am getting one of these CDs as soon as I can! Adam Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:ruqo9sc26ah72os...4ax.com... (...) would (...) if (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wouldn't try that. Too many people don't have VB runtimes installed, and just throwing them on the CD doesn't work (unless you want to make people install them first, which is a pain, but could work). I tried going this route when I was (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I can't be sure of this, but I might try a Visual Basic program that would give the user a option of what programs to install and where. That away, if the user doesn't want all the stuff on the harddrive, he doesn't have to install it. Another thing (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ok, well I guess it was better phrased 'traditional bank,' and I was referring to a building with a foundation, four walls, and people who work inside. One that has a canopy you can drive under and press buttons. :) I guess internet- based (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Note, I'm in the press the CD camp... at least for now, but I reserve the right to change sides. :-) (...) I think the idea is that the CD-r is something that could be updated with new stuff but still using the same jacket, just a small sticker (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm referring to www.x.com but I'm not sure what you mean by "normal" bank. :-) I got checks printed by them with my name on them, I can go to a local ATM and use the debit card to get money out of the account, just like any other checking (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, not all the stuff is there. And it would be best to include some resources which are not on ldraw.org, such as the LDraw and LEdit tutorial, personal creations, animations, etc. The HTML Guide to the CD-ROM that I have in my head (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Good idea! Animations done with LDraw and POV-Ray SHOULD be included if we can collect them all. (...) at least we who have a writer could update the CD. I really don't see how this is much different than a link on the CD pointing to official (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) And that 50Mb animation I searched for in vain! (...) That's why I'd prefer a CD-r and not a CD-ROM. Then if the CD-r is left open, at least we who have a writer could update the CD. It's getting more and more common at my work that we obtain (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Why don't you simply publish ldraw.org website on the cd? All the stuff is there, right? Build On! John Matthews Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:FpG5Gw.DxE@lugnet.com... (...) its (...) that (...) the (...) to (...) which (...) (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Well, since we've discussed some of the logistics behind producing the CD, its time to get the organization down. First off, I'll send out emails to everyone who has contributed a utility that works with the LDraw system, and get permission to (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.datfest)
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(...) Are you referring to www.x.com, or is X a type of account at a normal bank? (...) I do think that they should get as many CDs as they like for cost, because of the family connection to James and also because they gave us permission to produce (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I got it from CDMan... (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Lemme know where you're getting this quote and I'll find out if I can put you in touch with the place I've used for several jobs if they can beat this price. (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) $100 to ship 650 cds (even with pouches) sounds high. I ordered 500 blank CDs with jewel cases that I guarantee weighed more and took up just as much room as 650 with cardboard pouches and shipping was in the thirties. (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) And DEFINITELY nix the full-color pouch or whatever it was. Full color anything is too expensive for something like this. Let the programs and the dat files wow people - don't depend on a few pretty pictures on a pouch they'll probably throw (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, that's a good question. There isn't much of anything that better determines who will buy it than asking people to pay for it up front, which is what I was suggesting be done with an X account. That way you don't have checks to worry (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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How about have a submission for the CD to include models (sample models). BTW I like the idea. It would keep that LDraw folder with all the junk down! The only problem is when software is updated. -- Legoer, Adam Ogle Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) And earlier programs. BriCAD, L3G0, Ben's (?) POV library, VBLOCKs (an SGI GL program) and I think LegoPS (postscript) used different coordinates & units. Or at least they were all different from L3G0. (...) L3G0 call a brick a "b2x4"; BriCAD (...) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) How do you suggest going about determining how many people will buy the CD? BTW - the Jessiman family requested 50 copies already at cost. :) (...) Another good idea I didn't think of. Me also being banking/finance illiterate, would this go (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Nah. The only VB concern is if outgoing messages will be translated down to single-byte codes from the VB default double-byte. But if it doesn't happen automatically, the data can be filtered through a byte array first. Steve (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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Paul: [ Tells us that we are behaving a little bit silly. ] You are probably right, but... I think that the main problem is that practically none of us are experienced CAD developers or users. Some of Paul's points: - Different coordinate systems I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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People who find it slow could download a distribution to a local directory. LDRAW tools should have a search path that the user can edit, so local directories could be looked at first. Good point about testing. Mounting a drive (using whatever (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet ... (...) Well, I supposed I asked for it :-)) -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <+PCaOHXM4TXRXiZv7pF...ax.com>... (...) assuming (...) only (...) Not really, assuming a very long message *really* works, but I suppose there is no reason why it shouldn't. Multi-message is always more complicated (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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(...) Which is why I suggested it. Look, my point is just this: before 1800 is shelled out, make sure that you have some reasonable expectation of recovering all or most of it. I'll gladly put up a hundred bucks to make this happen, with no (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Colors for pneumatic cylinder (was Re: Looking for broken pneumatics)
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(...) Since they are available with various colors for the cap, it's even more important to do a separate file for each component. But the leaf-files are *parts*, not *sub-parts*. Probably with a tilde on the front of the part-title. Steve (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. Keep a list of field names in a text file. This list maps the field names in various inventory lists to the actual field names. Ex: Part,Part PartID,Part PartNo,Part Name,Name Desc,Name Color,Color Colour,Color Quantity,Quantity (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The second approach went beyond the event horizon. (...) One long message with line separators. As long as WM_COPYDATA permits, assuming WM_COPYDATA specifies a limit. <reads doc> Yeah, there's a limit. We can only have 2^32 bytes in the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oops. You're right, it's a 4400. Steve (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) As I'm sure a lot of people would do. I don't think we'll charge near that much for the CD, beacuse the goal isn't profit and I told the Jessimans' that we wouldn't collect on it. But I think donations will be accepted to cover up- front cost. (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The point of this would be to have manufactured pressed CDs. The original intent of the material is for distribution at .datFest, where attendees will be expecting this quality of work [1]. I think its well worth the extra $1/CD to go with a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd gladly pay 10$ or 20$ for a suite with LDraw and related software, if it is on a pressed CD. I would also pay beforehand if that is what it takes to ensure the project. Why not make a count of who's willing to buy such a CD? It is the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi Brian. (...) One is being developed at the moment. It seems to run on Linux, MacOS, and MS-Windows (of some kind). (...) I think there are programs to convert to and from some CAD formats. (...) I don't think we have a program for that yet, but (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.faq)
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(...) Samba use NT which is probably not the best schems to use. Unix style NFS probably- bu thier are security isssues. The way I was thinking was liek the inlining in VRML- which I think is htttp Alex. (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, I tried what you suggested and well, I get an error with the very first inc file it tries to load (in this case it's lg_2348.inc) Anyway, it says "numeric expression expected but undeclared identifier 'LG_WALL_WIDTH' found instead." (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think I would need something more. What I would like to do is this. (Please tell me if I'm just dreaming! :-) I would like to give the rendering program instructions as to what changes has been done to the DAT file since the last time it (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) original LDraw but more recent renders expect this. Chris chris_w_dee@hotmail.com (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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How serious is "bad vertex sequence"? Do I need to fix it? Will it affect the usage of my parts? Several of my official parts have this problem. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It would be seriously cheaper to just burn them onto cdr disks. And you can just make the number you need and burn more when that lot runs out. You could even make it an ongoing thing with people being to get ldraw on cd instead of spending 5 (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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650 CDs are a LOT! Have you done research that leads you to believe you can move 650? Remember, the upfront cost goes up if you can't sell them all. You may want to consider skipping the artwork and using CDRoms instead. The per CD cost is higher (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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A few people have been entertaining the idea of creating an LDraw CD-ROM. I discussed it with Terry and Jacob, and then obtained the permission of the Jessiman family to go ahead with it. I thought I'd present this idea to the group for feedback and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.datfest)
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(...) I don't need anything anymore after I modified thomas burgers police biker jacket torso to remove the police badge, thus creating a mock-up of the torso used in set 2584, for my crooks to wear when they are robbing datsville petrolium. I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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To all who have an interest: I am in the process of developing an original minifig torso for anyone's law enforcement officer. On paper, the original concept uses a 6-pointed star (for my Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane proposals), but I think any badge (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.models)
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(...) Wouldn't this be really really slow while before the web cache fills up? I suppose you could test the speed without a rewrite by samba sharing an LDRAW directory across the internet and then setting your ldrawdir path to something like (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: L-Draw - Future is the Net?
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In LDLite on MS Windows, the .dat files are searched for for by trying to do an "OpenFile" in several directories. It would be very easy to replace the "OpenFile" with a call that gets a file via ftp or html. I dreamed of adding an attempt to get a (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Usefull little feature idea for Ldite [was: Re: Help with LDLite]
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I've been really wanting to see a little feature get implemented somewhere along the way. When I first saw that Ldlite had a "rotate model after drawing" feature, I was expecting that it was in preperation for this feature: The ability to generate (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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As part of my project for college I am finding that a large number of Pro Acitectural Cad systems suppourt the use of distributed libraies.(Ie you can inline parts from a remote host.) Any plans to make this possible in L-Draw? alex (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Help with LDLite
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That would be fine with me. Call it 1.6.1. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: ldglite (ldlite for OpenGL and Linux) new stuff
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Leonardo, you are better than most, perhaps the best at contributing. The comment was not directed at you, but at the idea that publishing source would reduce the number of incompatible/redundant CAD tools. There is something disfunctional about the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Help with LDLite
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(...) Hmm, I just fixed that pesky little bug in ldglite, so now you can click on the DAT files from Internet Exploder and see them. Gotta update the ldglite website to version 4.0 real soon... If you're really brave you can join the small group (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I was planning to make a display list for each part brought in from the PARTS directory. Right now I think the files are cached, so they're only read once, but they're still reparsed every time the same piece is used. This seems like a perfect (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If you can to all the non-Emacs things, I will be happy to do the rest! :-) Seriously, though, the important thing is probably that the communication protocol ends up in a way which is useful for both of us. Fredrik (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) But the important thing is probably that the renderer must be able to save existing data structures (parts and primitives) so that it can quickly display an updated version of the DAT file without reloading them. I would like to have even more (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ah yes, the command line interface. Much better! I should just delete that pesky WinCvs fish icon right off the desktop. Don (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes! Yes! Yes! Although not surprising coming from another EMACS user. It's amazing how hard it is to convince people that you can get things done so much faster if your fingers never leave the keyboard. Unfortunately it requires training to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You can keep compatibility with the POV libraries but each one (LGEO, L3P and Anton Rave's (?)) use a different coordinate system. LeoCAD uses the parts from LGEO first and then if something is missing, it creates the parts using its own (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, I totally agree with you. I think that once you bother to learn the LEdit keycodes, it is much quicker to use than a "point and click" CAD system. I think that any new LDraw-based CAD system should also imlement the LEdit kecodes for the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) A feature I already started adding to ldglite is to take ldraw commands from stdin if no filename is present on the commandline. I think this lends itself better to external control than polling a file. This is of course based on my completely (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, excuse my ignorance, but I couldn't find the source at (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) What about the parts libraries used by the Ray tracing folks? Or is a totally new format in order? Either way I think the right thing to do is start with some utilities that convert the LDRAW formatted parts to whatever form we want to use. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Take a look at my previous post, LeoCAD is GPL. I know it doesn't look like LDraw but you can still run "leocad foo.dat" and it will render the file or "leocad foo.dat -i foo.gif" and it will save a GIF file (JPG, PNG and BMP also supported). (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Cool! That is my long term goal with LDraw-mode, too. I'm hoping to be able to make Emacs/LDraw-mode communicate (over X?) with some CAD system. That will give me the power and flexibility of Emacs combined with the joy of the LDraw format. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I really don't understand you, I'm not the one who has problems sharing (what I have done or what others have done). Ha ha ha ha Hohohoho Hehehehehe. Leonardo (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I believe that all new computers have 3D cards and the current format of the library is very easy to use but it's not good for hardware acceleration. (...) Hmm... :pserver:guest@gerf....r/cvsroot, pw = guest. :) Leonardo (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"SB" == Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> writes: SB> - Shortcut part file, referencing all the other files SB> - Plunger part file SB> - Metal rod sub-part file SB> - Black peg connector sub-part file SB> - Cylinder part file SB> - Yellow (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi. Perhaps your pathname to the LDRAW files or to your model files contains a space or some other unfriendly character. Try everything with the path C:\LDRAW or similar, and see if that works. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Ha ha ha ha Hohohoho Hehehehehe. You must be new around here. That's *not* how these people think. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I don't think "primitive" would be the correct term, but a sub-part (for the parts\s folder) would be. It didn't make sense to sub-part the "nozzle"/"connector" for the pneumatic tube on the air tank, since it is different from the "nozzle" on (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet ... (...) (where's the second approach?) (...) information. (...) Of course! Why didn't *I* think of that? (message type 2) (...) as (...) parts, (...) One long string with line separators? Or a multi-message approach (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks a lot for the above, for a minute I was quite lost, but offcourse, it can't be any other way (the structure, not me being lost:)). I would argue that a new primitive would be handy here, the "connector" for the tubes, since it is (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I've gotta remember to remove that WTOWER.DAT file so folks can't tell what a lousy builder I am. :) (Besides, it uses an unofficial piece or two) (...) Now you're onto something. I started with ldlite because the source was in C/C++ and was (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, the file included in the ldglite zip. :) Now another question, why there are so many people writing different CAD programs ? I believe that we surely would be a lot better if we helped each other instead of start a new project. Please (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I haven't looked at your code but it looks like you're using a single buffered window, that's a huge slowdown since drivers are optimized for games and games use double buffered windows and of course, a single buffer window is always slower. I (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I only heard of the Velocity 4400, it uses a Riva TNT chip. Leonardo (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Like Jacob said, the metal rod should be done as chrome, 383. To achieve maximum color flexibility, and to allow the plunger to be moved in and out, you'll need to use multiple files for this part. To let the plunger move, you'd need to use (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like that idea. (...) Yep. The idea is for LDAO to be both a source and sink for dragged parts. (...) Two approaches: 1. Allow multiple formats for the string being passed in the WM_COPYDATA message. One format is the one you're already (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) How long does it take with LdGLite on your P400? Try it at a similar resolution with the -V6 or -V5 command line switches to make it fair. Go ahead, I won't be embarrased if the numbers are really poor since I've spent absolutely no time (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well I haven't read the section of the book on vertex arrays yet. From a quick glimpse I suspect they won't help me much since I'm using the LDRAW files rather than a converted database of parts. I'm surprised you don't use display lists at a (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Bummer. (...) STB Velocity 400. I should know the chipset, but I don't. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Whoa. That's the same WTOWER.DAT distributed with ldglite. The one that LDLite, on my Pentium 400 with Win98, renders in 5.8 seconds? Amazing. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually the Windows version of LeoCAD takes 0.35 seconds to render on my P2 350 with a TNT card (the Linux version should be more a less the same speed). I don't use display lists, I use vertex buffers or CVA's if the driver supports it. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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