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(...) Laws of aerodynamics (aero*dynamics*) are nothing but Newtonian physics. The whole governing equation of aerodynamics, the famous Navier-Stokes equation, is just a different representation of our well known F=ma. By the way, is it a miracle (...) (23 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) real picture available of your ship and not a picture drawn on the computer? The second question is where are the wings on your space craft? I apologize for not being able to appreciate some of the larger space craft but I was one of those (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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"Jesse Alan Long" <joyous4god2@yahoo.com> writes: [...] (...) [...] Actually, this is false. Space is a vacuum - there is no air, only a few stray molecules of gas or cosmic dust. As a result, there is no friction and thus no need for wings or (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes: <snip> (...) That is a real picture. It was taken with my digital camera, and the background was inserted with photoshop. (...) <snip> Well, since there is no gravity (ok, very little) there is no need for (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Police II space craft that has a single stud version of that rocket piece and that piece resembles the cylindrical single stud brick but it has four fins on the side of the brick. I have seen those pieces for sale but the piece that I want is (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) The Apollo space craft were essentially rockets that allowed for humans to live inside of them in a small compartment and your fuel was primarily used for sending you into outer space and not necessarily down from space. The fuel that was left (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) <big snip> (...) Would this be in this family? (URL) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Hi Jesse: (...) A distinction must be made between controlled and uncontrolled re-entry. In the case of the Apollo (and various other pre-shuttle craft) entry was controlled, to an extent, as you indicate. Of course friction was still intense, but (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes: (snipped some stuff) (...) (snipped the rest of the scientific discussion) I think you've failed to consider that a bulky ugly craft with lots of antennas and other pointy pieces would be very handy when (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Dave, you are correct in observing a small mistake concerning the rockets. There were parachutes that helped the rockets land in the ocean but even so, in a unique way, the parachute acted not only with but against the retro rockets because (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) The second piece is exactly what I need for my Gaea Federation Galaxy Destroyer. I need two of those pieces, preferrably the same color. Thank you for knowing what I needed for my space craft. (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) It's more complicated than that. The rocket was a several-stage affair; the first few stages would drop off and burn up as you head up through the atmosphere; by the time you reach orbit only a small amount of rocket is left. The Lunar Module (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) There are no retro rockets used in an Apollo re-entry to Earth. Only the heat of friction and the parachutes slow the ship down from orbital speeds to the slow speed required for a safe splashdown. (...) If there was such a laboratory it would (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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There are plenty on brickbay: (URL) link might not work, so if it doesn't search for: "Brick, Round 2 x 2 x 2 with Fins " THE space logo is the little planet with the 'ring' around it. The ice planet log is the same thing, but with snow on the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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lol.... (...) those (...) that (...) for (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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I'm probably gonna get flamed a little for this but here I go. (...) computer? His ship is oviously not a render. If Kyle had created this ship in LDraw he would be God. (...) apologize (...) Ok this is a really weird comment. Others have adressed (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) [snip] (...) <Chuckle> Well, this is close, but not entirely correct :] The airplane goes into a climb, and then in one fluid motion levels and enters a dive. It's during the arced portion of the flight that the occupants experience zero-G. (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Actually, if you're travelling at near-light velocities, the density of the interstellar medium becomes high enough (especially within solar systems, so I guess that would be intrastellar medium) that a streamlined shaped would become (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) My spacecraft have wings if they're intended to enter the atmosphere, such as my Sparrow, (URL) . If they are strictly space (no atmospheric travel), they won't have wings, but they will have things that look like wings, but are field vanes. I (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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I thought the quote was asking how the Heisenberg Compensators work? Oh well... same sentiment. ;^) ~Mark "Web Interface, now with 50% more fat!" Sandlin (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) That may be true, but I don't think anyone knows for sure, because we haven't tried going that fast yet. My spacecraft follow a very "hard SF" policy - no FTL travel, no artificial gravity, etc. But that's not to say that it's the only way... (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I just figured the Heisenberg Compensators worked by dampening inertia. Dave! (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I think there's a lot of uncertainty surrounding their function. ;) XFUT -> o-t.pun (uhhh, o-t.geek.pun? :) ) LFB (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) those (...) that (...) for (...) And what happens if you need to detect that undetectable tachyon pulse signature and you've left off the tachyon pulse antenna?! It makes me sick the way that spaceships have got so fashionable now that (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) :) Yes. People should buy much more economical atmospheric craft if they're not going into outer space. Just think of the extra fuel used by dragging those hyperspace drives around with your atmospheric thrusters. Sure, you can see over the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) There has existed artificial gravity for years in the space programs, most notably our space program, all over the world. These same companies are working with contractors to develop newer types of engines such as an ion propulsion system for (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Did you ever see the Millennium Falcon in the first Star Wars motion picture where that space craft travelled inside a crater to hide from the Galactic Empire and they flew inside a space monster? I thought that the Sarlacc Pit Monster (which (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) purchase five dollars of merchandise or else they will not sell the pieces to me. I just want the two pieces and they expect me to buy the store! Can the visors of Futuron fit on the Legoland Space figures? I just want to know if they can fit (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I think I was possibly referring to the "vomit comet" when I was talking about the laboratory, Bill. I do appreciate the fact that you made me consider an attempt on weightlessness I never thought of in my mind when you mentioned the swimming (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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The visors that can be found in many sets from the Futuron days up till now will only work on those helmets. They DO NOT fit on Classic Space helmets or any other helmet that was pre-Futuron. (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I know that they are releasing the Lego Legends series and perhaps they will reintroduce the Legoland Space series and maybe we can ask the people at Lego to produce a special visor for the Legoland Space figures because without air, they (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I'm getting this image of a gargatuan space ship, rapidly approaching and decelerating. As it draws near, the large tachyon pulse antenna switchblades out from the port side... Steve (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) The only form of "artificial gravity" that is currently possible is to use a centrifuge structure to simulate gravity. If you've seen the film "2001: A Space Odyssey" you will remember the doughnut-shaped room where the men worked and (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Thank you, Bill, for telling me what the name of that technology was in my letter. There is a fatal flaw in your response, however, Bill. You seem to think that it is impossible to conduct this type of technology yet you already answered how (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Hi. Gravity generators per se are not in violation of the laws of physics. However, they are far in advance of any current technology that we have. In order to generate an artificial gravity field, without the use of centrifugal force, we'd have to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Don't forget that the biggest problem isn't the lack of visors, it's the ripping off of the head to get the airtanks on! :-) Cheers Richie Dulin Patrician of Brick-Morpork (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) To clarify: the centrifuge technique is more of a gravity simulator, rather than the sort of gravity generator that is imagined for Star Trek or such. --Bill. (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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"Jesse Alan Long" <joyous4god2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GFALvp.8nK@lugnet.com... (...) Then it wouldn't be true to classic space now, would it? -Tim (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Ion drives will not be in use in 2003. The only form of space engines that are currently in production are rockets. There are liquid-fuelled rockets, which can be turned on and off ("throttled"), and there are solid-fuel rockets which cannot (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Wrong! Ion rockets are in use now, and have been for 30 years. They're just not big enough to for sub-orbital work. See (URL) Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatic...mblock.ca> To: <lugnet.space@lugnet.com>; (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Are you sure about this? I believe there are ion drives in use on some research sats already. They are extremely low thrust mercury based but have, again, been shown to work for stationkeeping, unless my memory is completely fried. I want to (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) What about the helmets? Would new-style helmets be acceptable? --DaveL (Bring on the classic astronauts in GREEN!!) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) No I'm not familiar with that motion picture. That's keen that they featured an Asteroid Cave-Mouth Monster in a movie. I just hope that it wasn't a comedy because the danger posed by these creatures to space ships is very real and no laughing (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space) !
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(...) Deep Space One, among others, but that was of course only the testbed in 1999-2000. Isn't the service life only about six months on the units being sent up now? (I know one has run longer, but the expected life is only about 150-180 days.) (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) The first issue in this reply is no person can become richer than God because God gave people the concept of money and currency in their minds. I could devote a whole other letter about this situation but I am not talking about religion in (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Thank you, Bill for clarifying that response to my reply letter. Could there exist a way that a gravity generator be used for some sort of gravity simulator? I am not very experienced in the laws of physics and I am sorry for causing so many (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) The current space/race/town helmets have been in existence since Futuron and only until the existence of Life on Mars or U.F.O. did they build the larger visors. I am not sure which theme introduced the larger visors but even the old Super (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Perhaps I was referring to the fact that they may have been trying to build larger ion engines for space travel? I know that these engines are a defininte possibility and I apologize for my error, David. Jesse Long (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I am sorry that I confused you on the motion picture Star Wars but if you wish to know more about Star Wars, there is a seperate discussion board on Lugnet for Star Wars Lego sets and if that does not satisfy your interests, then go to (URL) . (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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"Jesse Alan Long" <joyous4god2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GFCMtz.7w1@lugnet.com... (...) will (...) Really??? <sarcasm> I've only been collecting these plastic pieces since I was a wee one, I never realized that </sarcasm> (...) What the heck (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I really don't think you confused him. Maybe I'm giving it away, but it was all well crafted sarcasm. (...) AMAZING! Those movies sound pretty neat. I wonder why I haven't seen those before, being a space nut and all. Are they in theatres or (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) A) saying something based on assumption, and B) venturing out of atmospherics ;] In retrospect though, JAL seemed to imply that these things were going to be installed on the Shuttle or something in 2003 and I said "no way". When I think space (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I believe there is also an Episode I: The Phantom Menace (recently released), and there may also be sequels to Episode I, called Episode II and Episode III, forming a prequel trilogy. Who knows what types of Freudian Symbol Monsters might (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I believe that your comment about those monsters in Episode II and Episode III of the new Star Wars Trilogy. The monsters near the city of Otoh Gunga were scary enough for me. The comment about the stud length is a generally accepted standard (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I have posted this message by accident---please ignore it everyone. Thanx ;] KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) ^^^...^^^ Y'know, if I think about the world as a glorified "Civ" game, then I believe this will be the outcome ;] KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Like Jon Palmer already kindly asked, could you please separate your LONG paragraphs. You do this by pressing a button on your keyboard called _ENTER_ or _RETURN_. Hope you understand and use this advice. (...) letter. (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Whoa hoss, slooooowwww dooooowwwwwn. You're rambling a TON here. Why not take the time to think about a reply and write it into nice paragraphs, so we can all read it. Better yet, why not go do something more productive? (...) I'm sorry to be rude, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) <nitpick> Actually, the larger visors were introduced first with Launch Command in the mid 1990s, Life on Mars is just reusing them. And I don't remember U.F.O. even having visored minfigs.. </nitpick> greg Disclaimer: It may seem like I am (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) what the flipping space monster burgers are you talking about? friction in space? NOT, noway, nohow wings are useless in space, dude. i'm an astrophysicist, i know whereof i speak. (i'm sure this has been said elsewhere but hey i don't have (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) No! Surely not! I had always thought all that space suit rubbish was about protecting soft and squidgy spacedudes from the howling radioactive solar wind, encountered near suns. So if its not to protect them from the wind, why do spacedudes (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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its for vaccum and sun. sun is lethal out in space without ozone to protect you from ulkmate sunburn and blindness. gonna need air up there too heh -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Richard Parsons" (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Oh stop. You guys are just trying to drive the postcount of loc.au up because the whinging poms might stay ahead of you, or something. :-) Next you'll be asking why the sky is blue over in lugnet.town, then you can ask if you have to hold (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) You know, Like the one in some movie or other that nearly eats that spaceship after they've landed in a cave on an asteroid which isn't a cave but still has bat-things in it and an atmosphere of sorts and really squishy ground and when they (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Hahah nice one Larry, the only prob is that you have also added to it yourself :) (oh and me too :)... anyway I am sure quite a few of us are whinging poms anyway :P (...) The sky is for sure blue where I am right now... Yes, the lack of (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Not if it's a small ship that can also fly in a planet's atmosphere. Someone else who replyed to this said you can overload the wings with weapons, but if you suddenly get near a planet's gravity, *snap* *snap*, and someones car gets hit by 89 (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Not if it's a small ship that can also fly in a planet's atmosphere. Someone else who replyed to this said you can overload the wings with weapons, but if you suddenly get near a planet's gravity, *snap* *snap*, and someones car gets hit by 89 (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) ...In the heat of battle, the captain presses the wrong button to engage the maxi*zappo ray gun, and out pops the intergalactic corkscrew and fish scaler. <duck and run> jk (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I've always envisioned an empire as a large, sprawling governmental body that tended to stay put, at least until the natives got restless. It must be stressful to return from a long range deep penetration preemptive "patrol" and find your home (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Why do you say with your words that ion engines will not be used on the Space Shuttle in 2003, Kyle. What you fail to realize is that ion drives were invented in society long ago. Do not argue with me on this, Kyle, because just last week I (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Actually, the problem is one of inertia. If you accelerate the ship with more force than the "gripping" force of the antenna, it will pop off. This happens even if there is no atmosphere. Also, minifigs need visors to protect against ultra-violet (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Um, because he tried saying it with his toes and it didn't work out? I used to try typing with my toes and it made a big mess. My big toe was too big to work the backspace key right. (...) Because everyone knows that we are all going to be (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Being the geek I am I wondered how many 2x4s that would be. Not having any to hand (or a scientific scale) I looked it up. It's amazing, everything geeky I could think of asking has already been thought, asked and answered. Anyway from (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I've got 3 words for you, buddy: Commodore-64! (...) He-he ;] That was pretty good! KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Ouch! They'd have a generally tough time of it without knees or elbows too, and without shoulders that can move the arm in front of the body. I suppose they can eat with appropriately long utensils but how do they dress or tie their shoes? (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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<snip> (...) <snip> (...) I'll leave the real world technical discussion to the remainder of the thread but I think it's worth mentioning that you can't criticize the lack of wings in a Star Wars design without recognizing the frame of reference (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) And if one needs any object lesson on how little wings matter on a real spacecraft, one need only look at the fastest craft ever created by mankind--Voyager 2. Wow, that's one streamlined space dragster, isn't it? It didn't even come close to (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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"Mr L F Braun" <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message news:GFGJJz.9Ar@lugnet.com... (...) Uhh... I thought that Pioneer 10 held that record[1], being slightly faster than Voyager 2 - but I might have been told that before a couple of crucial (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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<snip> (...) Ahem I dont know if any one has corrected you, and I hate to be nit picking but the M.F. flew into a "cave" not a crater in the SECOND MOVIE called The Empire Strikes Back. thank you (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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snip (...) Ahem the M.F. flew into the monster, which is technically called a space slug by George Lucas, in the Second movie not the first. The first starwars movie was over That whole Death Star thing. The second (Empire Strikes Back) is where the (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Jesse Long wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry to interrupt guys, bu this is the *funniest* thread I faced for a long time..:-D Is this Jesse character is real? I mean does he really exist? I really don't appreciate beating innocent clueless, and my attitude (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Does your title of an astrophysicist amuse me? Have you worked with such people as Carl Sagan or Issac Asimov? I have not worked with these people but then again, neither have you so I think I will become skeptical of every aspect of outer (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) You are correct about the Super Star Destroyer comment but I know that it was in Star Wars that they ended up inside the space slug (which I believe appears to be an early ancestor of those worms in another science fiction story named Tremors) (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) There was a man who asked me about eating soy and I simply said that I did not like soy because I am not exactly a vegetarian, that and I decided to be humorous (as opposed to being annoying or rude, which many people on Lugnet seem to think I (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) By quite a coincedence, my library has the Star Wars Trilogy and I would like to rent those movies but my parents would probably stop me because I have seen each movie about five times in two years and possibly as many as a dozen times in my (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Jesse, I have a couple of things to write about. The first is regarding friction in space. I agree that there MUST be friction in space, otherwise anything held together with a nut or bolt would come apart. The second is in regards to your (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) RTL stands for Rec.Toys.Lego a news group that existed before LUGNET. (...) -Duane (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Spare the attitude man, until you do, don't go wondering why people post harsh replies to your stuff. You come off as a know-it-all, even if someone who has education in a particular field counters your statement, you find a way to try to make (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) I appreciate the fact that you do agree with me but I must truthfully say that I never considered the fact that friction does indeed keep together the bolts on a space craft. Are there any other sceintific laws that either me or Paul failed to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Tim, in this statement, his words ARE insignificant because they are incorrect, even though he IS an astrophysicist. This is what Mister Paul Hertzog said to me, 'What the flipping space monster burgers are you talking about? Friction in (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes: <snip> (...) I'm sure that there are TONS of other laws and theories that we aren't looking at when trying to design a "realistic" space craft. That's why I have my own Lego Universe - it allows me to be (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) By the way. Thanks for breaking out your paragraphs. It's much easier to read... -Duane (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) I believe Paul was poorly communicating a correct idea. The scientific law of friction is applicable everywhere, even in space. It is a law, and going to space won't make it go away. What you need to understand is how this law works. The (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Well then, politely ask him for evidence, don't disrespect him by trying to diminish his experience in a field with smarta** remarks (eg. Does your title of an astrophysicist amuse me? Have you worked with such people as Carl Sagan or Issac (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) I've been reading the bundle of posts on the subject, so I am aware of the type of friction that he was talking about. I just wanted to make a tangental point since the "type" of friction had been dropped from the post. (...) I tend to agree (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Stop. you are both technically right. Although it is hard to justify the usage of the term "flying into a crater" inasmuch as you can fly into a cave. The giant worm-like creature was inside a cave-like hole that was located in the center of a (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Tim, (and all), I've come into this discussion late, and it occurs to me that this is the best part of it so far. It is great advice, which most everyone involved in this thread would to well to take. i.e. if you don't want to perpetuate (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) And I would do well to consider spell-checking before I hit "send", but alas... Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Actually not! What REALLY happened was that the MF flew into a crater/cave and then monkeys flew out my butt! =oP -- Hop-Frog (The Giant Thread Killer) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) "No way, Wayne!" LFB (who beats the dead threads...*thump* *thump*) XFUT -> .o-t.fun (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) So that's where they went! Call off the search party fellow Oz-simians, that amphibious phreak Hop-Frog was the kidnapper! --DaveL (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) No, I think you'll find that the flying monkeys are from The Wizard of Oz. ;-) (...) It's not dead yet. :-) Cheers Richie Dulin Patrician of Brick Morpork (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) You're not seen as evil. It's just that if you're unsure of what you're saying, don't try to make out that it's absoulutely right, and people won't mind if your opinion differs from theirs. (...) Just to add to this, possibly blurring the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) It was 'I really don't appreciate beating innocent clueless, and my attitude *was* same to this conversation.' At first, I thought that you were a teen, just were rambling around, and there was no need to be harsh to you. But after this much (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) That's nice....:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Well the A-wing flight control system doesn't discriminate between air and space flight either so it's control surfaces move in space as well, producing little affect except a little momentum. I think as a Valkyrie has 2 widely spaced engines (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Yes, but the point is you'd roll by 90° to turn, not just bank a little bit. Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Heya Selçuk- (...) I'm actually sort of stumped at that line too--it doesn't quite compute grammatically. I think that's what Jesse wasn't getting (that's definitely what I'm not understanding). (...) No comment, except that this has been a most (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Needless to say it is very appearent to me. Do I undesrtand your own language better than you or what?..:-) Anyway, the thing I tried to express (and couldn't, by looking the respose) is: * I really don't appreciate beating (kicking, slapping, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) The first problem I have, Jason, is that I am not sure that everyone else is right, either on these bulletin boards and I know for a fact that I am not probably right in my ways of thought in my life. Would an overheated engine become a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think that you do not understand that sentence, either, Lindsay? The problem is that you respond with the sentence, 'I think that's what Jesse wasn't getting (that's definitely what I'm not understanding).' What do you mean by that sentence, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Jeremy, Thanks for posting this. I think you got it exactly right. Steve (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Hopefully that smiley means you were kidding... you guys are both respected contributors, and I think LFB was just trying to help clarify why your wording may have been confusing. ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) All I simply said was I got tired of the same basic designs in large space craft. I have seen these same, cigar shaped designs ever since the science fiction serials on television around six or seven decades earlier in our country. I like the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) That's neither here nor there. Simply build them. Some people will like them, some will dislike them. But that's not what I'm annoyed by... (...) Uh, yeah. Against my better judgement, which I'm having to temporarily shut down because it's (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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(...) Oh, it just seemed to me that the sentence wasn't fully clear because of the way it was worded, and I posited that this might have been the same reason you asked for a clarification. Granted, it's faaa...aaar better than I'd ever do in (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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Hey Selçuk (...) Well, you're not an American, so it's entirely possible. :) (...) Okay. The "the" was missing, which is what screwed me up. Three little letters, a world of comprehension. I got all the words, but couldn't separate the sentence out (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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In lugnet.space, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: <snip> (...) LOL! You may not find it hard to believe that I speak much worse English after two years in the good ol' US of A. As for that sentence, I just pretended Chris was saying it. ;-) Here's a (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) 8?) Even in my short trip (~5 weeks) I found myself pronouncing things with an accent, just to get the Murkans to understand!! (...) Didn't actually ask the Pieniazeks how they pronounce it, but I say it like Peen-yart-sik, accent on the 2nd (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) And I thought I'd drifted off the subject... :-) I don't know of any form of reciprocating or rotating engine that could propel you through space, so engine oil seems a bit pointless. As for overheating, the only way to disperse heat in space (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Close. No R. pin-yacht-sick (yachts are big boats so that's the syllable that gets the accent) My Polish relatives say it "more correctly" as pin-o-scheck. (23 years ago, 27-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Easy Larry, we are just making some fun..:-) No hard feelings involved in anyway. Thanks, though..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 27-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) Then...:-), Turkish alphabet is a completely different thing than anything Ottoman. It was introduced in 1928 by Atatürk, based on the Latin alphabet that you already knew and been using for centuries. It has some "weird" characters like (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) You think that Turkish or Arabic is hard, try learning how to speak AND write Japanese, and I am not even from Japan! The Japanese language has over 1,400 different characters known as kanji and there are two different subcategories for each (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
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(...) I was only having some fun with the oil part of the letter, I knew that you probably did not use oil in outer space, I mean, after all, the general consensus in outer space would reflect that you would use environmentally friendly materials (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) The paragraph that I made in that letter, upon further review, did not need to be made into that letter but I guess I was simply angry at many aspect of my life and certain family members, friends, and other people. I, personally, am tired of (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes: much clipped (...) Orbit is a balance between a spacecraft's velocity and the downward pull of gravity. The vehicle's velocity pulls it outward, like centrifugal force in a car turning a corner, and gravity (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I guess it would be based on the surface material properties. Different materials have different thermal emissivities, so picking one with a high value would be better for cooling directly to space. Of course these materials may be impossible (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Narf! You're welcome. "Jesse Alan Long" <joyous4god2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GFnI8o.KF4@lugnet.com... -snip- (...) some fun, (...) (Perry (...) that is (...) even if (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Well, it's more about the angle the wing is inclined to the airflow. Just keep it tilted upward to the air flowing past you, keep your speed up, and you should get some lift. Newton says you're deflecting air downwards. Aerodynamics says a lot (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) What material would serve the best purpose for cooling off directly in space and would this material work in space to prevent the plasma that powers my space craft from overheating and making my space craft explode into a million pieces? Jesse (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I get 3.5 days, ignoring the motion of the earth toward the moon. Don't worry about the cookie - LUGNET provides free cookies for us all. :) Jeff J (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) You said in the last letter before this letter that some liquids (referring to the reaction to friction of certain particles in outer space) are viscious while some solids are very hard and smooth in reaction to friction in outer space. If (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Thank you for the demonstration about the vehicle and the turning into a curve, George. I finally grasp that concept in my mind. However, liquids, if you boil them, changes materials from liquids to gases, just to let you know, George. :.) (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Holy cow, it's that long?! Man, cool or not, forget that..., too long! Call me when the moon's an hour away. Now *that* would look cool, if it was the first time you'd looked up in a few days. Plus, the apparent gravity on the earth's surface (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I never spotted this before, but it's further proof that there's negligible friction in space. If there was, the Moon would have slowed down in it's orbit and fallen to Earth, and the Earth would slow down and fall into the sun. Actually, I (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I didn't necessarily mean in space. I was just talking about liquids in general (on Earth, in an atmosphere). Clearly if you're trying to push your way through something, a gas is easier than a liquid, which is easier than a solid. But, this (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I have two questions to ask now because of the replies to this bulletin board message I sent in response to many other messages on the Lugnet Space bulletin board room. The first question is for Kyle D. Jackson and Jeff Jardine and it is if we (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I understand now in my mind that atoms are what makes the structure of all living organisms and the structure of all living organisms depends on the density and class of materials in the constructuion of space craft. It is obbvious to me that (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I get 1 hour, 13 minutes. Or 2 hours, 26 minutes. If I could remember the derivitive of y = x^2, I'd be more precise. Steve (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) That'd be dy/dx = 2x. (I knew that calculus'd come in handy one day!) ROSCO (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Then it should be 2:26. Assuming that the relative acceleration between the Earth and the Moon is the sum of their local accelerations due to gravity. And assuming that acceleration is directly proportional to the force of gravity. Ie, when (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Calculus, yet another form of mathematics that I am unable to do in my life. Jesse Long (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Umm... It's not a poke. honest. Your value for the Earth-moon distance is off by a factor of ten. which means your answer should be 2.25ish days. And... The force of the moon's gravity doesn't really enter into this. We know Force = (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Actually, when calculating the acceleration and taking the distance into account, it's not so bad. For my first attempt at solving this, I tried converting gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy. The resulting integral was (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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I should probably try to solve the problem myself, it'll help as prep for my college entrance exam. ;-) (...) Hmm, not bad at all - that gives people time enough to *realize* it's happening, broadcast it all over the world, and let everyone go (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) As regard the math, I wouldn't know where to start, but surely even if the moon we're sitting on the earths surface the earth would still exert more force than the moon so you wouldn't be weightless. I don't know if you mean't, at the point (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Am I evil or annoying, Shiri? I am simply wanting to know and I want to know if you have built any LEGO sets of your own in your spare time. (We are evil! In-deed! Kaientai, WWF) Jesse Long (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Jesse, What does this have to do with the current thread? I also hope that you are joking (in which case you should be posting to .fun). Shiri is a good builder and a large contributor to the community. I'm a little confused as to where this (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) What's the deal with that Shiri person? She never has a bad thing to say about anyone, she's always got some positive contribution to make, and her posts are uniformly well-reasoned. I'm tired of her consistency and good-spiritedness--she's (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I am simply wondering why Shiri hates me. I was joking in part of the letter, which also means I also probably watch too much wrestling. I also have never seen any of the work that Shiri has made and simply wanted to know if Shiri (not sure (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Shiri is a woman who hangs out in the Castle sub-theme more than Space. You can check over there to see what she's made. I haven't made a castle in years.... (...) Sounds like severe weather indeed. However, you need to pay closer attention to (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think it is safe to say that Shiri (she's of the female persuasion) does not hate you. I doubt that she hates anybody, actually. Since this seems to be the "isn't Shiri great" subsection of the thread, let me add my kudos, she does a lot of (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I read them in an electronic mail account but not necessarily the messages. I simply type on Lugnet, then they send me a copy of the letter and I post the letter, then I take the Yahoo copy of the letter and I delete that copy of the letter (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I like the LEGO Castle set but I do not have the time (today) to speak with her. Maybe I can later? Please tell Shiri I said hello, is that acceptable, Larry? Thank you, Larry. Jesse Long (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) The reason I asked was because the way that you read can influence how you reply. With the web interface, following a thread is easy. With mail it's still easy, but not quite so easy. With a newsreader, I unfortunately don't have any (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I assure you, my boy, Shiri *is* a woman. I should know. ;-) <snipped the forecast> (...) Math is confoozing. In my mind. :-) -Chris (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think that unless we can find a specific point at which Shiri is not a man, then we cannot demonstrate conclusively that she is a woman. Either Shiri occupies a spectrum of man-ness and woman-ness with no distinction, or a distinction (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Whoa, that's something I never thought of before! It kind of raises an interesting idea, too. If this is always a trend for the satellite (i.e., "moon") of any planet with large amounts of liquid on the surface, then maybe over time there is a (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Actually, you have this backwards. The friction of Earth's oceans against its solid parts is slowing the Earth's rotation down. This translates into a loss of angular momentum for the Earth. But angular momentum must be conserved. The angular (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Hi, Long time no see, John! Have you just been lurking about? (I'm finally back from Europe myself.) Coming to Brickfest? How's JHU? (...) Weren't there other methods used recently as well? I'm not sure that any would be as accurate as a laser, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Have you met Shiri before in your life? Jesse Long (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I would say yeah, he has, after looking at this (URL) =) ~Nathan (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think they met once or something... (URL) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) How sweet. ;.) Love, unfortunately, has eluded me for every moment of my life. :.( Jesse Long (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Would there be any difference in the accuracy of laser vs. radar? I'm not enough of an EE geek to know, but thought "no" because they're just different wavelengths of the same thing, right? Or does the wavelength difference (it IS many orders (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Not quite. There's a good comparison here (URL) talking about speed radar versus laser. Basically the laser is more accurate, but requires more accurate aiming by the operator. ROSCO (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) More accurate at measuring *speed*. We were talking about distance. Careful reading of both articles reveals no claimed difference in accuracy for distance measurement, since it's the same technique being used. (the speed difference is because (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I've posted a few times this year, but mostly I've been lurking. And trying to build something that truly satisfies me. I keep buying more parts and experimenting... patience now... (...) Welcome home. Is the dissertation in the can? (...) (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Isn't the theory behind rainbows (or light spectrums in general) that the different wavelengths refact by differing amounts, and so white light is "spread" into a spectrum of colours? If that's the case then radar and laser energy would (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) My first inclination is that there should not be a difference. When measuring distances with light, the accuracy *can* be limited by the wavelength. I think one can measure accurately down to roughly half the wavelength of the light used. I (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think most of this sounds reasonable, but I'd guess that laser still follows the inverse square "law". ROSCO (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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In lugnet.space, Jeff Jardine writes: <snip> (...) I'll address this point to fill in a bit of a hole, as a lot of the other concerns are past me. Yes, radio waves are affected by gravity which is why they travel along the surface, so in a sense (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I thought that the whole point of a laser is that it doesn't - it's a directed beam of parallel waves of light. The inverse square law is for a diverging beam. As distance from the source increases, the area the beam is spread over increases (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Why is it that whenever YOU think, MY head hurts? I really wish this were clear enough to follow, because it sounds semi-interesting, but as it is, I'm just painfully confused. Take care, Soren (21 years ago, 25-Jan-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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