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Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Joe Meno

Hi all, This is from a friend of mine, Gareth Bowler: Got into my first 2004 sets today; the MINI star destroyer set, and promptly scrapped them for parts, only to find, to my shock and dismay, that the colors don't match. Further more, the studs (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX) !!

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mark Papenfuss

(...) (re-posting from BL) Hmm... The prophecy is coming true.... I was wondering when this would be made public and if it would be made public. !!start warning!! I do not know the full story behind the pictures (like what sets they came from, etc) (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —John-Paul Enaje

(...) Okay.... what happened? Did Lego hire fired workers from clone brands like MegaBloks, Best Lock? This is really sad..... I think each of us should start making emails and letters expressing our concerns as loyal Lego customers. (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Josh Baakko

(...) As I replied ON BL, i still think this is attributed to either light or air quality. The old peices have what i consider "Smokers tinge", my peices from my youth have simlar discoloring, and my father smokes... I think its the tar in the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Chris Leach

Josh..in my house NO ONE SMOKES and I have noticed some 6 months ago that when you put alot of dark gray tiles together they do not match( I used a large number on that pepsi building roof edge and a ton on that road in my flatiron block) This is (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Joe Meno

(...) I disagree. I took a look at my Mini Star Destroyer and noticed the blue tinge to the dark grey, but initially thought it was the light of the room. But the color is quiet different, and I can pretty much say that I don't smoke, and neither (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Sorry, Josh, but it's not. The discoloring effect does happen in odd environments, but not like this. I noticed the "bluing" in the dark grey when I bought the Star Destroyer the other day; I initially wondered if it was the light, but yester- (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Harvey Henkelman

Looks like The Lego Group is finally cutting corners (literally) in order to compete with cheap clone brands. Is this the end of good-quality Lego?, or is this merely a bad batch of product? -HRH (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Richard Marchetti

(...) Yeah, this is bad juju. Nobody wants grey elements that don't match with light and dark grey as we have known them. I don't necessarily mind additions to the color scheme as we know it, but to eliminate the greys is just madness. I don't even (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Ray Sanders

(...) Dunno, but does have me wondering how this change plays vis-a-vis the light and dark gray elements in the 4400 tubs that just hit the street. There are 50-ish lt-gray 2x2 bricks per tub. Is Lego dumping old-color parts ? Will these continue as (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Eli Donati

(...) Further more, the studs are rounded, making (...) Yes, working on a machine shop floor it looks as the NEWER 2004 plate/s is of a different mold note the chamfered edges of the stud the reason for this and I must say firstly that I Have very (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Stephane Simard

(...) Thanks for the scan. Bad news to say the least. :( I'm crossing my fingers that it's all a bad mistake and the bulk of 2004 sets won't be plagued by this. If Lego truly wants to get rid of colors that have been in production for ~25 years, (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

New Color! —Tom Dickson

(...) See these posts on bricklink: (URL) and (URL) Mine>. The light gray has changed a bit, but the dark grey is a whole new color, which I think Clark is right about; it's stone gray. The new studs are slightly looser, but seem to work well. (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Jeff Elliott

(...) Just a thought with no evidence to back it up, but.... Assuming that this is not simply an error, like bent cypress trees or low-quality train wheelsets, could there be a technical reason? One reason that occurs to me is the colourfastness of (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —John Neal

(...) Well, if it's true about the connections being weaker, I'd say that's bad news. But in all honesty, as a town building and landscape builder, I welcome a slight color variation! Mix up all of those color variations and you have buildings and (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Richard Marchetti

Three things: 1. I don't think anyone objects to additional colors, they object to color replacement with a different colors. 2. You might well be in a minority in not minding a mottled look to your MOCs, I think many others would be more than (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Kevin Wilson

richard marchetti wrote in message ... (...) building. (...) bricks (...) be (...) OVER! I think this is crucial. IF it's really so that there will be not-quite-matching replacements for some of the standard colors, and IF the new stud design is (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Erik Olson

(...) 2 words: Coke II. But I doubt it is that drastic. As for clutch, I don't think they would have done anything major without hordes of focus groups expressing their joy at how much easier it is to disconnect two plates. For some adults that's (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —John Barnes

(...) I wonder if some of the older dyes have become either unobtainable or have been outlawed in Europe. Some of the older dyes, even food colourings, are now deemed harmful. TLC may not have any choice in the matter. As far as rounded edges on (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Adrian Egli

(...) I did some goolging and found this interesting page. (URL) LEGO has been spending serious bucks into the plastics recycling business. Now, the way I see it, if LEGO is putting all this money into this then I'd think they did some serious (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Ray Sanders

(...) This article is a quite interesting read. What jumped out at me was the mention that different colors of ABS have different specific gravities (within a small overall range). I wonder if the saline solution would have a detrimental effect on (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad, lugnet.market.theory)

Recycled Lego —Pete White

In lugnet.general, Adrian Egli wrote: (URL) (...) Wonders what LEGO molds with the new bricks ? Plus what colours are the result ? (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Recycled Lego —Thomas Stangl

Well if you actually READ the article, it is clear that they mold whatever they wish, as the granules are used in the standard process. And the colors are grey and black. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Recycled Lego —Pete White

(...) WHICH grey genius ? READ the thread. (...) In lugnet.general, Adrian Egli wrote: (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Peter F. Guenther

(...) That's my guess about what's happening. Chamfering would make parts somewhat easier to assemble (just like in carpentry, the dowels for a dowel joint are chamfered for easier insertion) at a cost of some gripping. I'll have to buy some of (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) Two questions: a) At what point in history did LEGO bricks become so difficult to assemble that a fundamental change was required to the very mechanism upon which this construction system was based? b) If you are already having difficulties (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Anders Isaksson

(...) The chamfering could also help the finished piece get out of the mold faster/easier, maybe the plates got stuck in the machine? -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) Wouldn't you then also surmise that you'd have to round off the edges of the plates/bricks too? I just can't imagine that after 40+ years the cylindrical stud with the more or less flat top has suddenly become difficult to manufacture. Is the (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Peter F. Guenther

(...) Lego has CONSTANTLY been perfecting the designs of pieces. Witness the hole in the minifig head; the slots in the sides of the Technic pin; etc., etc., etc. The camfering is another step in the ongoing development of product, though for what (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) I totally agree. What I didn't agree with was the logic being used to suggest why these changes were being made. I was trying to express my disbelief that changes were happening because parts were getting too difficult to manufacture. If these (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Peter F. Guenther

(...) Right--I don't agree with that either. It's not a manufacturing issue or a cost-saving issue, it's a marketing thing probably based on ease of assembly (if it's not a mistake, which I'm still willing to believe based on my Mos Eisley (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) So this microscopic change to the studs makes them easier to assemble? Worse yet, this suggests that today's kids are not as dexterous as we were 25 or 30 years ago? This is really hard to believe. Any average 6 year-old can use their superior (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Peter F. Guenther

(...) Not that kids can't put them together, but to make it easier--just like holes in the minifig heads made them easier to pull off and slots in the technic pins made them easier to pull out. Making a change to make something easier for the user (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Conrad Frank

(...) I thought the holes in the minifig heads were for safety reasons, to prevent choking if a child were to attempt to swallow them. I think I saw that mentioned in a LEGO book somewhere... C (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) We now know that this is a moot point, but something worries me about your logic: (...) Your statements are true.... IF we are talking about a product or design that is relatively new... perhaps only a few years old. Then there is the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Erik Olson

(...) With all the new coloring products coming on the market, it would be strange if Lego could not get exactly what it wanted in a color. Having played with them now, I think the new colors are great. (...) Having purchased said SW minis, I did (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Erik Olson

(...) replying to myself.. the new gray is not very earthy. I tried to add the 2x2 tiles to a landscape which has a lot of gray. The new gray looks very antiseptic. How appropriate for a Star Destroyer. It looks like the float on newly poured (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —John Neal

(...) We both know that the grays do not fare well with time-- they yellow, and many times older grays look crappy anyway. In the same vein, I would never build with white from the 70's. (...) We must consider the possibility that the apparent (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Tony Alexander

(...) Richard, With no offense intended, this sounds as if those builders out there who are "stuck" with the bricks they have (for whatever reasons) just can't be as good at MOC-ing as those who can buy the bricks they need to make the "refined" (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Richard Marchetti

(...) Well, I have no problem with those that build in whatever way they choose at all -- in my view, playing and building is the point of it all. I think we're on the same page there. I also don't have a problem with additions to the color line, (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mike Oliver

(...) I kinda agree. A slight variation in color will make things look beter. Mechs, for instance, will look dirtier if two different shades are used. And it will add to "brick" effects on buildings. But, over all, I like the old stuff better. It (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

How close is too close? (was: Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!) —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) I really don't like the new dark grey very much, and I finally figured out why. Well, there are a few reasons, one of course relating to the fact that I've become a bit notorious for my consumption of that particular color. But it's a bit more (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —David Gregory

I think it's fine if LEGO wants to ADD more colors to their spectrum, but REPLACING colors is a bad idea; especially staple colors like light and dark gray. Those 2 colors are heavily used by everyone--space, town, castle--we all need gray. I'm (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Adrian Egli

(...) One idea did pop to mind: What if we have a batch of "lemons" here? Maybe it's just some bad bricks that slipped through the system. We've seen elements of poor quality gone to market before; remember the first batch "hydrolic" cylinders that (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Jeff Szklennik

(...) Pic snipped; see original post. (...) This is in actuality, NOT a 'dear lego' letter as it is a COMMAND to Lego: If this cheaper quality is the new standard, I, as a Customer who is absolutely correct in this matter, ORDER you to cease & (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Per Langkilde

I havent even seen the new colors i life, but.... IS this is really true LEGO SHAME ON YOU. CORE colors in ANY SPACE set change. How could you? Building with Lego will never be the same again. I was so much looking forward to the new 2004 line. Now (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!) —Kevin Johnston

(...) To your average 8 year olds? (...) I think that's your decision. I picked up the new Snowspeeder today. It uses the new grays (both of them). I think the new dark gray is a fantastic color. (...) No worries. They will be widely available in (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.starwars, FTX)

Re: New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!) —Joel Kuester

(...) hi, quick q: does it use the new greys exclusively, or in conjunction with the old greys? thanks! hoping its the former... I can't wait to get some new grey! (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!) —Kevin Johnston

(...) Entirely the new colors (the set is largely white, recall). That's to be expected, I think, the light grays in particular are very close and there's really no reason to ship both of them in the same set. Kevin (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Ray Sanders

(...) Everyone should take a deep deep breath and answer the following questions... How many sets have these 'new' colors been seen in ? How many themes have these 'new' colors been seen in ? How many 2004 sets have been examined to determine if (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Deep breath, count to 10. Was: Fwd from a builder —Joel Kuester

(...) even if its true that the greys are being changed, this is not the first time or the last during Lego's long heritage of producing building blocks that a change has been made. I would imagine that if the internet had been around when they (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Deep breath, count to 10. Was: Fwd from a builder —Erik Olson

Relax, then rush out and get some of these new colors, and look at them side by side with your old colors. The grays are different. I like them. There is no chance I will confuse them when they are mixed with the old. Remember the excitement when (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Joe Meno

(...) I have 3 of the new Star Wars Mini sets (Mini ISD, AT-TE, and Imperial Shuttle), and they have the 'different' grey. The new X-Wing, though, has the 'old' grey. (...) So far, it appears to be the Star Wars sets. (...) I did 3, and others on (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mike Walsh

"Ray Sanders" <rsanders@svic.net> wrote in message news:HoF20M.21xM@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ...] (...) then see (...) Good points. I decided to go to TRU and buy the 4492 to see what all of the fuss was about. There is no doubt that the (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Jeff Stabile

(...) <snip> Falling in the wait and see camp, I do wonder, how valid are the rumors of color Additional colors (as already mentioned) do lead to neat ideas of having 4 grays to work with. But if the original LT and DK grays are being replaced I (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Cynthia Bradham

Just to add my humble 2 cents here, I bought a used gamma-V (6891) from brick link recently, and when I was putting it together, I was disappointed to see at least 2 different greys which didn't quite match each other. I assumed the seller had (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Erik Olson

(...) Cynthia, this is almost certainly aging. Any collection of gray bricks going that far back will have variations from contact with UV light. (I have not checked vs unopened sets.) White bricks are the worst agers. There is also such a thing as (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —David Gregory

I just bought the 2004 Mos Eisley Cantina this afternoon (#4501), and was disappointed to find that this set also has the new off colors. It wasn't just the 2 grays either; brown is a lighter shade now. The dark red, verdigris (sometimes called (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Ken Koleda

(...) Color me.. disappointed. I think it's kind of entertaining that several folks have counseled either a 'wait and see' approach or that they personally were just going to sit back and see how it pans out. Honestly, what choice do we have? TLC (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mark Tarrabain

(...) Are you serious??? If by "big enough" they mean more than 50% of the actual head-count, they may be right... but I'd bet anything that if they looked at the bottom line, how much money gets spent, they'd find that more is spent annually on (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —James Brown

(...) Yes, he's serious. By "not big enough", if memory is serving me correctly (too lazy to go digging through Lugnet's back catalogue of conversations), they mean "less than 5% of our sales volume" 95% of the Lego that leaves the shelves ends up (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mark Riley

(...) Same reasoning why they don't cater to the Macintosh with their computer products - too small an audience. Mark (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —David Gregory

(...) Actually, Brad Justus and Jake McKee have always told us that they believe the adult LEGO buyers to make up less than 5% of the retail market. We AFOL's think it's a bit higher, but not much. A good way to put it into perspective is this: go (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Jeff Findley

(...) While I agree with this, what keeps adults buying Lego instead of the cheaper clones which have appealing set designs than when we were kids? The answer is brand loyalty. The parents played with Lego when they were kids, not MegaBlocks. These (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Allan Bedford

(...) Mark... they're serious. Speaking as someone who used to share your opinion it's important to note that this argument has come up many times in the past. The general opinion has always ended up that this statement is correct. (...) It might be (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mark Tarrabain

(...) Kid fans of LEGO eventually grow up... and they either become adult fans of LEGO, pass them on to their kids (in which case not as much LEGO is bought for the successive generation, as there is already ample supply), sell them via bricklink, (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Ken Koleda

(...) I am no expert on this aspect, but I don't think the logic is that sound here. I recall an article in a train magazine noting the 'graying' of the hobby. They worried that the average age of subscriber was like 56yrs old. I don't think (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: more photos of new colors —Ondrew Hartigan

(...) Hey All, After not sleeping last night due to being pissed off about this, I went out today and bought myself the mini star destroyer just to see what I was getting upset about. Upon opening the set I noticed the different colors and put them (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: more photos of new colors —Mike Thorn

(...) Actually this contrast almost suggests to me that it's not a replacement, but a new color. It's such a drastic difference. Hmm, reminds me of some gun barrels I've seen that have a "blued" finish. The first thing I thought of when I saw that (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: more photos of new colors —Adrian Egli

(...) After going though my buttloads of light grey I recognize my "very old" light grey (the "engine oil" shown) from my "current" ones bought in new condition (SAH, BL, sets) the last decade or so. That light grey plate ("new" version) looks much (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Color change official/permenant WAS Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Jeff Szklennik

I saw this posted by 'guybrush' on the FBTB forums: "I've started a new topic so that this one can be free of doubt, wait and see type comments, etc. I have confirmation in my inbox this morning. I'm not sure yet if the person wants to be quoted or (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Color change official/permenant WAS Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) To quote Swiper Fox: Awww MAN! (Why yes, my sister *does* have small children, why do you ask?) Well, not much chance of me stopping building, but it does put a serious kink in my plans to build a life-size model of the Death Star in dark grey (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Eric Brok

Aside from the perspectives already mentioned, two other issues worry me: 1 Replacing or augmenting existing colors with slightly different colors will cause confusion and bad publicity. - We will have a harder time sorting out pieces and need more (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Mark Jordan

(...) Two new colours shouldnt be a big issue for sorting. If you are keen eyed, it'll be easy, and if not, then you won't care about the difference. (...) You will be able to figure this out simply by referring to the date of the set. Also, Lugnet, (...) (20 years ago, 28-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Eric Brok

(...) (snip) (...) I wasn't sure when I wrote that (TLG just put DUPLO stickers on EXPLORE boxes as a temporary clarification), but now it turns out to be very clear, with DUPLO and QUATTRO now officially (re)launched. Eric Brok (20 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.general)

Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Mike Petrucelli

(...) Now I haven't actually seen the new grey colors in person yet but based on the pictures it looks like LEGO is now matching their light and dark grey colors to the ones Mega Bloks uses. Now if the new colors are in addition to the existing (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Mark Riley

(...) That was my initial thought on seeing the new dark gray, too. Now it won't be so obvious when Lego and Mega Bloks are blended together in a MOC. :-P Mark (ducks) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Chris Phillips

(...) This would not be unprecedented. After all, New Coke was an attempt to make the product taste more like Pepsi. (...) There's an easy way to identify the MegaBloks -- shake the model gently and see which pieces fall off! - Chris (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Mike Petrucelli

(...) Well that was the case 4 or 5 years ago. As of 2 to 3 years ago Mega Bloks is much improved. Only the occasional 1x1 part suffers this problem now but there are usually 10 to 20 extras so you can get one that makes the model work. I am very (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Mark Riley

(...) I have to agree. I'm holding a chunk of dark gray blocks from a recent MB set and they all stick together very well, the colors of the various parts match and the bricks themselves line up nicely so that surfaces that are supposed to be smooth (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Chris Phillips

(...) And to be fair, my experience with Mega Bloks consists of picking them out of yard-sale lots of LEGO, so I've really only dealt with MB pieces that are relatively old and worn. I must admit that more than one recent MB set design has caught my (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Dave Schuler

(...) Well, if I understand the tide of sentiment here on LUGNET (as well as the corporate Newspeak dished out by TLG), you need to maintain a special perspective while exmining this issue: When LEGO demonstrates wide (and random) variations in (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Anders Isaksson

(...) blocks is: (...) ~1960) to build something. The 'modern' bricks I have are much better. I *did* like the effect, though, when I built a roof with a mix of old, slightly curved, CA slopes, and modern bricks. It looked more 'live'. -- Anders (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —Dave Schuler

(...) Hi, Ducks: I haven't trumpeted the virtues of MEGA BLOKS for about twenty minutes, so I'm long overdue... Whatever else one might say of MEGA BLOKS, it must be admitted that they have always offered a wider range of colors than LEGO. I would (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...) —James Wilson

(...) What about the new / replacement colors is "low quality" ??? Is the ABS used in those colors of lesser quality than the "old" greys? Or are you just upset that LEGO is following the lead of another company? James Wilson Dallas, TX (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things! —Robert Seifert

If you dare, write to them!!!! As I have seen, petition runs here on LUGNET. Many peole are thrilled some way. There is also feeling of betrayal and some craving that TLG doesn't listen to AFOL's alhough it's 5% of the market. If you dare, spend 80 (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)