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Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts
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Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:42:05 GMT
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David Eaton wrote:
> Sorry, just had to drop in two more cents to the collection plate...
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> You're pretty darn close to right. One of the things that makes stories
> interesting is connections. Not necessarily friend/friend relationships but
> also love, hate, jealousy, betrayal, etc. Interpersonal relationships in
> addition plot make for a good story. Plot alone isn't enough to tell a good
> story. And that's a HUGE part of what was missing in TPM.
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> The original trilogy had a bunch of relationships, some of which made the
> trilogy all the better-- the main two (I think) being Luke/Vader and Leia/Han.
> But there's also Luke/Ben, Leia/Luke, Ben/Vader, R2/3PO, Han/Lando, Han/Jabba,
> and a few more that really give the movie flavor. There ARE some connections,
> though, that aren't very interesting to the movie (IMHO, obviously), like
> Luke/Han and Luke/Yoda. It's not that they're not good relationships, but
> they're primarily self-exlplanitory, ordinary, and unexplored.
I think the Luke/Han relationship is very important to ANH. It's my impression
that Han didn't care about Luke until they got trapped in the cell block. Even
then its a relationship of convienance since Luke was on Han's side and they
were both in serious trouble. By the end of the film, Han has grown to respect
Luke as a good friend- even though he has a hard time admitting it.
> The problem with TPM is that it's jam packed with connections that COULD be
> interesting but wind up boring, ordinary, unexplored, etc. Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan
> COULD have been a great relationship (why in the world does Obi-Wan take his
> master's death so seriously? It'd be great if we KNEW why-- what's their
> backstory? Why did Qui-Gon choose Obi-Wan as his apprentice? Why should we
> place any concern on their relationship?), but their relationship was totally
> left out of the movie. Same with Anakin's relationships... he doesn't bind
> with anybody because he lacks any backstory whatsoever, as do most of the other
> characters... Lucas even missed the opportunity in Darth Maul-- why not have
> him be connected to SOMEONE... ANYONE, other than Darth Sidious (which was
> another connection ignored by the movie)...
Do you think this could be because Lucas didn't make as involved of a back story
for Eps 1-3, as he made for 4-6? I'm sure there is one, but a large portion of
what we have seen and will see in 1-3 was written 25 years ago. I don't get
the impression that the events before the TPM were thougt out in as much detail.
I don't think Maul should be connected with anyone else in TPM... the Sith were
missing for something like a 1000 years. Actually, don't we see members of Mauls
species in the senate chambers? That's a weak connection, but if so we now know
that they are force capable.
-Chris
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| (...) Well, it may be important/necessary, but I never felt it their relationship to be very well defined, expanded, or altogether interesting. There's nothing really intreguing about their friendship... But relationships like Vader/Luke, Leia/Han, (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| (...) friendships/partnerships that (...) relationship is more of a (...) could explain why parts (...) Sorry, just had to drop in two more cents to the collection plate... You're pretty darn close to right. One of the things that makes stories (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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