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(...) This is interesting... I don't think Matthias would agree with you: (URL) project X robot relied entirely on timing, and he had a lot of problems at the competition. (...) I guess AC would be more consistent than batteries, but it still isn't (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Chris- So I have to use two touch sensors and two light sensors to operate four motors (I read in an earlier message that to control four motors, one has to use two RCX bricks). When using the light sensors, what should I do? (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) My vote: I don't care. However, I think that if they are allowed, there should be no chance that they could foul another bot (ie, they should only be allowed on a factory bot against the back wall). For the record, I am not planning on using (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I guess that's us. (although we're not sure about Jeff VW) (...) yes. is it practical.....? that's a whole different question you might need to set up a reservoir of air. MANY, many, many, many, blue tanks to hold air to power those TWENTY (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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People- This joystick controller idea is for a mammoth crane (Demag AC 500-1 SSL, for more info check out the Terex-Demag website, look under literature, and click on the Demag AC 500-1). The reason I require four motors is so that each of the four (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Luckily, this stipulation was not put into place until I already had two RCXs. :) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) How did you win your first RCX? :) Jeremy. Always check your boundary conditions ;) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) These general questions (even follow-up questions) should be directed to everyone. Someone else may have a better answer. Remember, you're talking to a large group of people. (...) hmm. bad idea. That REALLY won't do what you want. And it (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) !?!? :) (...) Yes. And, someone could easily say "well, my cord won't tangle other robots." But... (...) ...If it does, they lose. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) First AC is not allowed yet. Until the webpage changes, AC is still not legal. At some point, we're going to tally up how people stand on the issue so far: Iain - No Wayne - No Chris - Yes Bruce - Yes Jeremy - Yes Ka-On - Yes Trevyn? Rob? (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) The same reasons why we say you can't drop 1200 pieces or be larger than 18" cubed. I care if it gives an unnecessary benefit that everyone else doesn't have. Like, we don't allow John Barnes sensors because not everyone has them and they're (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Unquestionably, instant death. Iain (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Ok, if AC is allowed, what is the ruling if a robot gets tangle in the opponents AC cord? Derek (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Steve- This is a bad habit of mine, not finishing my thoughts. My full question is, You've heard how I have connected the touch sensors to the input ports. Likewise, I did the same to connect four motors to the output ports. My problem is, I want it (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Steve- Will you be at the next meeting? (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, boo hoo back at you. Your concern about batteries is not a valid reason to change an already existing rule. You can go out and buy rechargeable batteries or several dozen of those made on the backs of Chinese disposables just as easily. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Vineet, This sounds like a very good question that DOES pertain to groups like this one. Congrads for being On-Topic. It sounds like what you're describing IS an or gate, BUT, when you press any of the four buttons, it will trigger ALL THREE (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Or ocnfiguration-- Up to 4 touch sensors, wire out, to top of 2x8 electric plate *1* wire from 2x8 electric plate to 1 sensor on RCX In this fashion, if any button is pressed, the RCX doesn't care which one. The simpler thing to do is attach (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Bring it on, dapper dude! Or as my idol and walking dead slayer, Ash, would say... Come get some! Groovy! Dave K -It's a trick! Get an axe! (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> (...) So Chris has spoken! So let it be done! Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) As always. Would you expect less? :) But anyway. Now it's on. You got me mad. Get ready for me to KICK. YOUR. ASS. It's on, boi. Yeah, yeah. You know it. Iain (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hello guys- I realize that I can sometimes get way off topic (BTW thanks for pointing that out Larry). In other news, concerning my RCX controller, I did a few sketches yesterday concerning the pneumatics and the touch sensors. As was mentioned (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) smart ass. I'll use 2. and each of you can use 1. if I have to, I can BUY more. :) Chris (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Because if you're using AC you're at an advantage because you *CAN* time everything. If you're using battery power you can't do that. You get that huge inherent advantage of being able to build a simpler robot that runs far more reliably (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I just got 7, beat that! :-) ...but on the second level, crashed and burned right away. -Tim (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) your a freak! Calum. how dare you try to force how I should build or program my robot. so what if I build "sloppy" so what if I use time.... so what if i use BRUTE FORCE. you know damn well that's not what the games are about. the only (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) that is a high score, until someone breaks it :) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yes. There was always a required path and in a previous incarnation: (URL) required path was the shortest path, because it was the ONLY path. The problem is the pictured construction is very difficult to build. (...) That's right. If you could (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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I'll try to keep the tangents to a minimum... The last few days in our little corner of LUGNET have been interesting... Here's the thing--we are one of the most active orgs where postings are concerned. We have 'bot competitions, which intrigue many (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm currently working on a design for rtl14 and hope to have a robot to enter. (...) I've seen a lot of back and forth on this question with good points by both sides. Here's a few of my thoughts on the issue: 1. With AC power, a robot will (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) No, because AC power also means you can be sloppy with control loops. You can brute force time instead of using clever mechanisms (Iain/Rob) or sensoring everything (Chris, Bruce) (...) This is why I was against the external battery box of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Derek (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Vineet, I don't think it takes cahones to answer questions that can be answered by doing basic research. I think it takes patience. A LOT of patience. You need to do that basic research. *You* need to go to the rtlToronto website and do a (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Bruce Sheridan- I am asking "infantile" questions, 'Will the robots be RC controlled, or controlled via laptop'. Take a look at you. You didn't even have the cahones to answer one of my earlier posted questions, 'What is Project X'?, as if you (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) <snip> (...) Yep! ++Lar appreciation is on the rise :) Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Right, but I'm not talking about the sensors, I'm talking about the design for what goes where, and the code that needs to be run in the RCX... :-) (...) Should I take a bow? :-) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) too bad you guys don't do sumo. At the Brickfest Sumo, the first place prize was a 1.0 RCX with power suppily, and a Spybot. I have a suggestion that may clear up a couple things. (and I know how much you guys love to hear from me) Maybe this (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm not entering so I have no official say. We allowed ext. power for project x 'cause, well, the 'bots didn't move. IIRC, I noticed in the vid for monkey bars that one was using ext. power. but then there should have been no chance that bots (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well. I guess that is a better explanation than you posted before. Thanks for posting it. It may not be a good technical answer but at least it has democratic rationale. Ben (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) To my mind, it's a perfectly good reason for saying no. Let's turn the tables and suppose allowing AC was the norm. I come along and requested that AC *not* be allowed because I can only use batteries. The response would likely have been along (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) FYI, The Magnetic sensors were actually created by rtl's own Jeff Elliot... Jeff VW Who is still applauding for Larry :) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Want the honest reason. The discussion regarding this either way (YES vs NO) has been largely SUBJECTIVE without a whole lot of reason. I would like to hear some OBJECTIVE reasons and find out the pros and cons of using AC power. I would like (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm not Ben, but mine are all destined for LDCC (either controlling trains, or being boosters to get the signal to go farther, or being receivers for accessories like turnouts and suchlike) or for independent trackside automation. Robin's (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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I don't get why you're buying all these RCX's, and not building robots for the (...) I have future plans for those. I don't care to discuss my plans with them, at least not for the moment. I don't think I have to justify my having them. As for not (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's a good start! (...) Me either! (...) Darn. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I don't get why you're buying all these RCX's, and not building robots for the competitions. What do you use the RCX's for? Iain (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) What I don't undersatnd is why you're geting involved with this. (...) No, removing the batteries does not clear the firmware and programming - it takes only a minute if you have your RCX easily accessable (by good machine design). A poor (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That is pretty tough terms. What if the RCX is available at clearance for $199 CDN like the 1.5's were on just after the 2.0's were released? I know for that price, I bought one. Since then, I have acquired (through Evil-Bay) 2 additional (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, agreeing with Wayne about saving batteries isn't a good reason for voting "no" (just to screw your fellow competitors). I was just re-emphasizing what Calum said in an earlier post, "Yeah, sure you do. I won't take the excuse you can't (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) WRONG!!! you can still buy one at spectrum. sure it cost $190 (ish) but they can still be bought so that's a lame excuse. I have 4. I flat out refuse to buy an RCX if it does not have an AC jack. Chris no potty joke. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) But pneumatics are available. The original RCX with a power jack is not. (...) I don't believe that making assumptions about how people will tackle a problem, and developing a rule from that, is the proper way to go about a competition. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That isn't a good rationale for voting no. That's like saying "no" to allowing pneumatics because you don't have them. What is the underlying issue? What I perceive the problem is what to do with the dangling wires that are attatched to the (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Hmm. Wayne's got a good point. Okay, change my vote to a "No"! If I've got to spend $20 on batteries, so should you! :) Iain (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm building a robot for rtlToronto14. As for AC adapters, heck no. That's not being nice to those of you who don't know how to buy batteries, but robot competitions are not about being nice. I for one will not be able to use AC because I (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I wasn't even thinking about a 'bot along those lines, but that's way easier than what I was picturing in my head... Thanks Larry! Dave K -who now likes the straight 't' design instead of putting in 'y' connectors... (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) "shortest" path? At the marked T just to the left of the right support leg, the path leads upward, but if the robot were to remain traveling to the right, it would rejoin the marked path much closer to the end, avoiding a whole section of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) <snip> (...) I like it! It fixes all known issues neatly. Now all I have to do is figure out how to get a robot to detach itself from one pipe and latch onto another. Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hey folks, Here's a graphic to give you an idea of what rtlToronto15 could be like. (URL) that the structure is made of 90 degree pipes running into only T shapes. While the game will probably be called "rtlToronto15: Project Y" to continuity's sake (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Try reading the rules that are clearly posted on the website. I'm getting sick of your infantile questions! (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) If you read the rules, ((URL) will see that external devices in real time (like RC controllers) are forbidden. All processing must be done with RCX bricks, Scouts, Microscouts, Spybotics, etc) Ideally, most programming would should be done (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Guys- Thanks for the good news. In other events, how do you plan to control your robots? Do you plan to use RC controllers, or will they be preprogrammed via laptop? (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I thought about it, yes... But what **I** said about his behaviour isn't debatable. :-) He needs to learn how to post to different groups, he can follow up there himself if he really really feels the need to talk about the bombing. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) While it may or may not be scary, this is *way* far (...) Hey Lar, I'm surprised you didn't set follow-ups to Lugnet.off-topic.debate for him or at least x-post it there. Ben (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) We heard you the first time. While it may or may not be scary, this is *way* far enough off topic (in my opinion as someone who hangs out here although I don't live in T.O.) that you'd get better responses if you posted it somewhere other than (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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<snippage> , and aren't offended enough not to let me attend the next (...) What I meant was, that even though the group can sometimes be a bit "unfriendly" in their posts on-line, they are quite friendly in person and welcome new members to come (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Ben- I am a bit confused by your statement, "I don't think that would be possible." Am I kicked out of the group? I hope not. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Dave- Did you hear about the bombing in Bombay? It's really scary. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I think you've got a good idea here. If we build it right, we wouldn't have to rebuild it to have a different maze for subsequent rounds, we could just mark different paths through the maze. I don't like the idea of having more then one (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) /me rise hand (...) Yes. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I don't think that would be possible. It doesn't take too long to figure the Organizational Culture of rtlToronto is to be the "most unfriendly place on the web" which is the opposite of the LUGNET goal of trying to be the friendliest place. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hey guys- I understand that you all got your own lives to live, and that they don't revolve around me. Anyway, I am sitting at home on my computer, just roaming around (like Ben). Hope you guys have fun, and aren't offended enough not to let me (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hey guys- I understand that you all got your own lives to live, and that they don't revolve around me. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Guys- Sorry for the rude remark. (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) seeing that 90% of postings from rtl come during the workday, when they should be... ugghh ...working, why would they start to send a plethora of postings after hours? The amount of postings after 5:00pm and on weekends tends to be small to (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I just picture el tubbo flying his x-wing saying 'stay on target... stay on target...' before he blew up real good... "stay on topic!! stay on topic!!" says Calum. K, I'll stay on topic--I have all this room, the layout, and lotsa bricks, but (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Iain -- Yes Dave A -- Yes Derek (#2) -- probably yes if he ever stops lurking. Chris Still on topic, AND gets in potty reference # 2 <---Oh man... the double Duce!!! did ya see that? (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) As one of the most active groups on LUGNET, this type of e-mail might seem to others as a bit offensive. As well, 7:52 p.m. is mayhaps not the best time to look for additional posts from fellow RTL'ers--they probably just got home from a long (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hello? Anyone out there? Chris? Calum? (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yes, sure why not. I will follow in Jeff VW footsteps. Just build a prototype of some sort. Dave (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Sure. (Yes, allowed) Iain (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Okay, except it looks like most people will have ABS black pipe. (...) That's true :) The deal with that is that you have to be clear of the joint to know you're on the right path. Without a "path checker" out front, there's a 50% of chance (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I mentioned the following solution at BrickFest, but I'll post it here again: If you were to combine the Canadian pipe and the US pipe you have, another solution is to have the 'correct path' be all black Canadian PVC, and all the 'wrong' (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) and Me.... if I find the time.... I will build a prototype that just does not hack it.... Jeff VW (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Okay, So, I'm reading: Chris Bruce Iain Trevyn Rob Me Are trying to put together robots for rtlToronto14. Any others? Also, for those intending to play, vote on: Yes or No: AC adapters allowed. (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's the other benefit of having secondary paths-not reducing the game to sumo. A single decision up front to go onto an alternate path allows a competitor to avoid a sumo like game. Calum (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Sad thing is I learned CPM techniques in first year, but the best implementation I've ever seen is in our GPS lab, where they put on the whiteboard whoever's behind the 8 ball. It gets people working FAST, and no need for CPM charting either. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Wouldn't it be useful, since you could avoid the other robot, and not have to bash your way through it? (...) Mmmmmm, sleep. "I too will go home, for sleep" :) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Look, we've been over this before, no non Lego parts, especially not the HiTechnic Christina Aguilera module. Sheesh. Calum PS-if we tape it pre T and single true path, I think it's hard, but not excurciatingly hard. Basically it's time for a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) So Calum you are suggesting that the shortest path would be the marked path, but if a robot goofs up, and turns the wrong way, it can continue, and take a longer, route that will still lead it to the critical path. Calum, are you being (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Okay, what about this: 1---...---T------2 ^^^| | | | 3 Entering joint at 1, white tape is ONLY on the half of the pipe which has the correct path 3. We tape around 180 degrees of the pipe (ie, a C shape). This also allows the robot to align (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm actually REALLY looking forward to a game like that. Put those 9751 Dacta Control Labs to some use. I think everyone has one now. Calum (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) As Calum announced at the BrickFest event, (I believe) the plan for Pipe Racers Pro is the addition of y's and tees. -Rob. (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yup. That's always been the deal with rtl15, to be able to traverse T or Y shapes. But previously, the rtl15 competition was to be one true path and the other path would always terminate. I'm suggesting we don't terminate, but instead offer (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Oh, that's easy - just use a four-bit BCD TapeCode, assigning a 3-digit rotational position about theta to find the correct pipe exit point. Piece of cake. In addition to playing "What a Girl Wants", all robots must bake a cake, and hop on one (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Ah ha! Here's where we differ - I don't see the problem :P You read the markers are you approach the T joint, and expect to know which way to go with the knowledge aquired. My markers are _after_ the T, and they just tell you if you're going (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I like it. The original thought was that before each joint there would be 1 strip or 2 1 strip means 'go left' (as left as left can be in a 3 d grid), or 2 stripes means go right (again, same). As pointed out, however, which way's left or (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I blame the ascii art. :) this is the problem I see. (more ascii art) 1 2 ---...--- I red I I I 3 OK, put a robot at the base of the T. (number 3) as it drives up the pipe, it reads the RED tape. so it should turn left to the # 2. so far easy. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Backing you up, JohnG Go Trains!! Dave K -the preceeding announcement satisfied many criteria--score 1 point for Magno-Ball, showed my unfailing interest in trains, stayed 'on-topic' (at least, as on-topic for rtlToronto as one can be), and (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Hey, INS was getting possessive, and didn't want to let me leave the country. Now that that's fixed, maybe we'll visit for the next event :) (...) Maybe I'm dense. Actually, forget the maybe - but here's what I'm thinking of (bad ascii art (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's why the rest of the world just sits back and *watches*, while the genius Lego builders (& programmers!) of RTL Toronto come up with amazing solutions to problems the rest of us would be scared to even attempt... Me? I'll stick to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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