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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:G3tJ8p.446@lugnet.com... (...) "wrong"? (...) at (...) Having read what I just wrote in this forum regarding education and child rearing are you still so selfless to say, "Who am I to argue (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thanks Chris for addressing that which is too rarely looked at. Children no more need a master on Earth than a master in heaven. Most people do not understand the purpose of the mind and have no concept of how to kindle its fire. I think you have (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm at the near point of avoiding this group altogether. I personally wish Scott and Larry would just killfile each other and be done with it. While I side mostly with Larry, the way this "discussion" is being handled is useless and pointless. Larry (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott and Larry write: (...) [snip] (...) This is great! "You say something and I'll pay attention and we'll talk about it." "No, you" "No, you" etc... The basic fact is that you're both right. Since I largely agree with (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is common. Tough choices are made at the start of the life of a government, implementing then is often uncomfortable. By the time the election comes round, the “tough choice” will be producing results. (...) Not really. Thatcher started (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Empire of Nippon won the war. Isn't that obvious? (...) I guess that depends on the details. Did he indicate that "we" won the war only because the US fully engaged? Did he explain that we won in spite of Montgomery rather than because of (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We exhale more. (...) Are you under the impression that that somehow answered the question? (...) So? (...) We seem to be getting on OK. (...) Well, now we get to something that is wrong. We shouldn't be dealing with people like that. Chris (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, and I can call my congressman or go to his office. I can even share my views, and the office often does give help to constitutents. But if you equate that with "you're in control", somehow, you're confused. Your elections are when? At (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G4JFsK.53n@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) consent (...) Well, here in the UK, I can go round and see my MP this weekend if I wish. I can tell her just what I think, and expect her to (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's what I thought, but you springboarded off my comment in a way that made me unsure! Dave! (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Quite aware, yes, thanks. I'm not THAT dense ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Charmingly naiive, don't you think? Elections are held once in a while. Politicians exert power every day. They DERIVE their power from the consent of the governed but they exercise it, nonetheless. Elementary civics. (...) Feel free to (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Love is a drug and I need a fix! - Roxy Music (...) Clearly you're not thoroughly Sluggish, or else you'd know that sugar is indeed a drug when ingested by ferrets. :-) ++Lar (who didn't go door busting this year and sort of doesn't miss it!) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure politicians really do have power. Surly the power lies with the electorate? (...) The problem with your LP is that, those at the bottom of society would also have less “power”. (...) The others include increased social division. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I loved her in Desperado and Wild Wild West. 8^) (...) I'll see your Shakespeare and raise you a Voltaire: "To respect your enemies for their virtues, there is the greater miracle." That is, even if I (for one) disagree with (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just for my own edification, you're aware, I trust, that I was being facetious? Dave! (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That works if the "drug" user is able to make that determination and if he doesn't subsequently cause harm to others as a result of that drug use, and in any case financial/criminal penalties may simply be too after-the-fact to be of use (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Disagree. "Power corrupts" as they say. So if you want less corruption, make sure your politicians have less power... That's one of the outcomes of Libertarianism, a government that does less, and hence, has less opportunities for graft and (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most of those forms of protection aren't very reliable. When dealing with the enormous responsibility of having a child, even 99% effectiveness doesn't cut it. Sterilization is the only TRUE 100% effective contraceptive (assuming followup (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, but who should decide what "drugs" are? I don't think the government should, they've always made a mess of it - deciding what is Prescription only, Scheduled drugs, over-the-counter drugs, "not really drugs" drugs (for example, nicotine in (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snigger> Yeah, right. Republicans....hones...integrity. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! I think ANY politician won't fit will with those terms after any appreciable time in office. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thanks for the shake. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott, Larry, Come on, you two. Sometimes I get the feeling that you are no more mature than a couple of two-year-olds. I mean, honestly. Do you have to get at it every time you get into discussion? If you really think it's necessary, take it to (...) (24 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My school history teacher told me the allies "won" the war, these were made up of France, Great Britain, much of the now Commonwealth, the United States, the Soviet Union, and, to a lesser extent, China. Was he wrong? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've long sus--- no, I won't do it. Too obvious. (...) There's a Libertarian herd? I thought we all were free to do what we wanted... Steve (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? It's good of those Englishpeople to promote the US that way. Steve (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I forgot to reply to this bit. I assumed that, as you'd replied to the message I was referring to, you had read it. This seems like a fair assumption, but I'd be a liar if I said I'd never done the same. :) Scott A (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Production and consumption are the problem. (...) At present the US, with its 250m consumers, sucks up the largest proportion of world oil - 19m of the 74m barrels the world uses daily. Two-thirds is used for transportation. (...) Nope, but I (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Started in chemical engineering, ended in computer Science? ..:-) Actually I always hated doing homeworks (and quizes, who cares a BA or AA where CB or BB, that you can get with only midterms and finals and projects, is more than enough..:-), (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for satisfying my curiosity too. It is so much more pleasant here when the titans *play nice*. Gold stars for all! sheree (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting. Out of curiosity, what percentage of heavy industry is located in the US? Or is all that CO2 produced by cars? Do you have a breakdown of other leading national contributors to atmospheric CO2? (...) Really? Every week? Under what (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK Larry, I shall give you a silver star for trying. The key word to search for, I suppose, is "doctorate". It would have revealed: (BTW - EPSRC funded my doctorate at a cost of, in today’s $, $200,000 over 3 years. This focused on defining (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I just ran a scan on all of Lugnet, using PhD as the search term, and there's no post from Scott saying what his doctorate is in. I also tried just searching debate and using Doctor, again, nothing relevant, then I tried Doctor and (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry Scott but even I started to be interested in..:-) Really, what is your area of PhD?..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, but in either case, *they* had no license. (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe it was just the education system that let them down... (...) or the Stupid President? Which would you rather have? --DaveL (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is an English thing - not UK. You'll also find that a good deal of England still harks back to WW2, and loves reminding the Germans about who one. The feeling in Scotland is a little more mature. I'll quote one of you countrymen to sum up (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. There is no "monolithic" UK view, (just as there is no "US" view either). However there certainly is a bit of a running gag among many people I talked with about disliking the French and french ways. The UK and France are close allies (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I used to live in Broward county and work in Palm Beach county. Both ARE heavily Democratic... and both are home to a lot of very clueless people. There is no correlation implied there, of course. Remember, it was in Broward that a little old lady (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) USA = 3% of the population. USA = 25% of CO2 production. Right now, I hear, the USA is using so much oil that is is forced to buy ~90% of Iraqs oil - despite the fact that UK/USA drops a tonne of bombs on the country per week. In that sort of (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just because that dirge was written in the UK, it does not follow that it is the UK view... and I assume you are not shallow enough to think otherwise. There is a recent history of England and France exhibiting a little friendly animosity. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you insinuating or asserting that Christianity is a "cult"? Any reasons, or just being a troll? -John (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The people weren't too stupid to vote incorrectly, they voted fine. All of the hype of the butterfly ballot is subterfuge. The spike for Buchanan, I believe, will be shown to have been ballots (incorrectly) stuffed for Gore. A statistician (...) (24 years ago, 19-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh hey! I like that. It'll drive the Republicans up the wall. Almost worth it from that standpoint alone! :-) Of course, they'd be worrying needlessly since the first female elected president will be a conservative (not because Republicans are (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And presumably the Republicans. (...) Like Christianity? Chris (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I too think that. Self defense doesn't even need to go to court. (...) Your opinion is noted and disagreed with. For two reasons: First, I think there is nothing inherently wrong with vigilante justice, if it is rightly applied. And I'll be (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, all I can say to that is look out for Hillary! for prez in '04 (why does she get to use an exclamation point?? is it because the mere mention of her name is scary?) If you thought the conspiracy theorists were having fun now, just wait. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now THAT'S hitting below the belt. :-) We got railroaded in NY when the Howard Stern fan club took over the convention and nominated him for Gov but that's a pretty big exception (and we changed the convention rules to prevent that from (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I'm sure Republicans always probe their candidates fully... I'm not even sure that I trust that some Libertarians don't follow the herd sometimes. Frank (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I saw an e-mail today which described how the ballots looked when in the machines. Apparently some ballots lined up fairly well, and others didn't at all. With all due respect, I'm unwilling to call people stupid without having seen the actual (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think there's a big difference between an act of self defense, and chasing someone down after the fact. Vigilante justice should not be tolerated. I know that it is a very fine line, but my feeling is that once a perpetrator is leaving the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, you know--that durned Clinton and his gas tax are so bad that the honest working man can't even drive his own car anymore! Dave! (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Gerry, Ok, I'm not going to debate that there are several oddities that have sprung up that seem to help both candidtaes in all kinds of ways. I also agree that after the final recount, Bush will be the winner. But I think it is silly to say that (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pat, The way this whole thing got started was someone took something fun that I do for my Brickbay store personal. The original comment about being crazy was nothing more then a joke. Lets discuss what makes America a great country. Everyone (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi Frank, When you say that I approve of "the death pnealty" it sounds like you're talking about a court-ordered penalty. I don't believe that courts should pass out death. Ever. Really! One of my stances is this: Government (at all, I mean as (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, sort of. A statement of certitude differs from an expression of opinion in that certitude implies fact or truth. Had you said "I think that even though this boy..." it would have expressed your opinion and eliminated any need for (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ok, I'd like to express a few things here. 1. Gerry your original post was in bad taste, have a enough sense to admit it. 2. The first state wide recount was not initiated by The democratic party, it was started as a result of Florida state law. 3. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We would never resort to nuclear weapons - The Republic of Texas is gonna give 'em a good ol' fashioned butt-whipping. Which reminds me of a funny Letterman Top-10 List that I recall from many years ago: The Number One Reason Why Las Vegas is (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh? Why not? My mother-in-law is a Texan. The defense rests triumphantly! :-) I didn't insult the state, I just insulted the politicians. Feel free to substitute whatever state you like - the key word is "politician". There are four kind of (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kinda like what you just did with that statement, eh? Liberals and conservatives alike will often say whatever they think it will take to "win" the point or at least get the goat of the other guy. Both sides indulge in name-calling and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's a difference? :-) Wait, what did Rhode Island do? Note that France seems to be rather disliked by a lot of countries, note the admonition in that UK Revokation that we were to nuke France at the slightest provocation... Why is that? (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok...Texas Republican into the fray...LBJ was a bad apple, but no need to insult the whole state. Anyway...doesn't matter. If Bush loses, we're gonna exercise our right to cede from the Union, and the first order of business will be to declare (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, Dave, you're certainly attacking everything today aren't you!? Here too, you're missing the point, 1st off - this whole circus has an element of humor to it which I'm taking advantage of. No then, my assertion is merely that anyone who (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, not true. I, at least, preface my opinions with 'I', to not my opinions You, have felt it neccessarily to use insult, though. ("naive") Unfortunately, this is a time-tested liberal tactic, and I can expose it. Liberal tactic #1 - Resort to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See, the thing is that many Republicans express themselves eloquently and without making themselves sound like self-righteous children. Those are the Republicans who demonstrate themselves and their ideas to be worth of respect and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm with you, Rob. If somehow Gore forces his way in, he'll certainly have been the first President elected by the will of the people too stupid to read. The President of the Stupid. What a way to start your legacy. -Jon (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is a horrifically presumptuous and naive statement. If your claim were true, there would be no history of euthanasia, nor suicide, nor assisted suicide. (...) Again, quite naive. The issue is not simply the 'value' of human life but (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes I thought they were doozies when he wrote them in his book "Earth in the Balance" (or some title like that). But they are true. That's the way it is with belief systems (like the Democrats), people tend to be willing sheep, signing up for (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Duh! ** BLATENTLY NOT TRUE ** Read the article. The boy didn't bring the suit, his parents did on behalf of the boy (and maybe not even that) What we know from the article is that his parents sued because they could have aborted if they had (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This stance kind of troubles me. It suggests that not only do you view the death penalty as an appropriate penalty for rape, but you don't even expect that the alleged perpetrator should get a trial. (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The real tragedy here is that the boy has no hope; his life seems to have been such that he considers death to be the real gift. Who has really failed him? I wouldn't blame the doctors. I wonder if he has been raised to believe that he is a (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rather a harsh way to put it, but yes, I believe that if you take what Al has said at one time or another at face value, he does see global warming as such a huge problem that any measures may not be too drastic, including disassembling all of (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As a democrat, let me note that's mighty nice of you to say! ;-) I think Honest Texan-Politician would be a better example of an oxymoron (move over Landslide Lyndon, here come the Bush Brothers Tag Team). Bruce (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Posted with no comment other than "wow", Here's one for the "can it be true? file": (URL) the lead of the article: (...) ++Lar (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We both agree that is murder. (...) I would convict him as long as I could be sure the sentence he is given is no more than about 2 weeks. (...) Ironically, I think in actual fact I would find it much more than mildly distasteful. (...) That's (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yesterday, NPR talked with a statistician who discussed this point. The current difference is statistically negligible; it is virtually a tie, you cannot state with confidence that either person won. The difference in a total of 6 million vote tally (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing specific, though I'm sorry to hear GW wasn't able to pull off the execution hat-trick this week. Dave! (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This could probably be posted in OT.FUN, but I figured this was a safer place to start. Last night, while availing myself of the fine Pittsburgh mass transit system, I had the pleasure of sitting a few seats away from a quite vocal and colorfully (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I think ox(y)moron is the precise word:-) (...) ooh, my facetious meter just went off-- anything you care to share, Dave!? -John (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, exactly. And your response was that you'd try to keep it a personal decision. Now obviously, that's not what you meant, or how you meant it. Fine. For the sake of the next two points below, I'm assuming that we're defining murder as a (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I'm not going to get into any ideological arguments. It looks like you and John Neal can have lots of fun together. I did praise your Brickbay shop, so let's leave it at that like you previously suggested. /Eric/ (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unless I miss your intent, the word you're probably aiming for is redundancy. Unless I miss your intent, the word you're probably aiming for is redundancy. (...) Especially given Republicans' long-standing tradition of honesty, integrity, and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops. My mistake:-) (...) It is amazing to me that the law means nothing to Democrats; they are so &*%$# arrogant that they think they can abide by the "intentions" of the law (which is however it favors their needs) instead. -John (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My distress is over your inappropriate political comments in lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade more than it is over Bush being likely to become president. Gore was not my candidate. But I still think hand recounts are more accurate. They do (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, Isn't the words fraudulent Democrats an oximoron. Was there ever any doubt that they would try to pull something. Gerry (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If thats the case. Eric McCarthy, LETS GET READY TO RUMMMBBBLLLEEE!!!! (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Gerry Venteicher wrote: <snip> Gerry, please don't mention the "L" word here-- it is OT and not welcome;-) But politics are happily discussed-- howa 'bout those fraudulent Dems who are about to get royally busted for rampant voter fraud in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Eric, I do appreciate your distress over the choice of Bush for President. Quite frankly I would make goofy demands if my canidate lost. As far as the accuracy of a hand recount you might say that it is as accurate as the people counting it (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Eric McCarthy" <eric@reasoning.com> wrote in message news:3A15557A.3EC6F3...ing.com... (...) have (...) Your point is one that is not being addressed in the media. ARE hand counts more accurate than machine counts? My opinion is that no, they are (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And my comment to you is that hand counts are more accurate than machine counts in determining the intent of the voters. If, due to a defect in the perforations of a voting card, my vote wasn't counted, I would be angry too, just like the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are mistaken Eric. I never called my customers crazy I called the people who want to continue this brutal assult on our Constitution and Forefathers crazy. My only comment to you on this matter that if regaurdless who you vote for, whether (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No prob. Thanks for making that clear! (...) See below... (...) Not really. Whatever you decide that point might be (sentential tissue issues were brought up here IIRC?, and the fetus being viable (i.e. can survive outside the womb), etc) it (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The statement you quoted from before had to do with IF I were pro-life and thought that any abortion was murder. In that case, I might vote for people who would put the likes of Thomas and Scalia (sp?) on the Supreme Court in the hope that (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm still not comfortable with this, since it suggests "choose to conform or we'll make you choose to conform to society's ideals" in a way every bit as totalitarian as the Big Brother states of which Libertopia is the antithesis. (I know you (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and what if one does not have the ability to make that choice? What then John? Just leave them to rot? (...) I have choice. I choose to not want guns in my society for example. Every single day of the my life I could choose to be a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Previously, you wrote: (...) I took that to mean that you thought that laissez-faire stance was to allow murder. And that you hoped that while murder might make you uncomfortable, you would allow it to remain a personal decision for everyone. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Note below that in my questions, I'm not arguing, I'm asking for clarification. (...) So what? Do you think that pre-murder abortions should be reduced too? Why? (...) Why can no one say? That point must be based on something. If it's based on (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I expect that if it takes them a long time to harden, it will take at least as long to soften. And ultimately, I don't know how to do what I'm suggesting. If you can arrange stewardship over a prison and a somewhat increased budget with which (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I had thought of that when I drafted my last post. I suppose society has "invested" in your hypothetical 9 year old... but that is not a very strong argument. I suppose my original argument reflects the current trend for the views of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I agree she should be responsible for becoming pregnant or not becoming pregnant if that's her preference. In an ideal world I would say it should jointly be agreed upon with her partner and they should both take responsibility, however (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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