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Re: Boy sues (and wins) for NOT being aborted
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Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:33:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
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> > The funny thing about life is that if you don't now it any other way, you
> > accept it the way it is. I'm certain that even though this boy is not able
> > to communicate with us the way a 'normal' person is, he is still alive and
> > would like his existance to continue.
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> That is a horrifically presumptuous and naive statement. If your claim
> were true, there would be no history of euthanasia, nor suicide, nor
> assisted suicide.
No, not true.
I, at least, preface my opinions with 'I', to not my opinions
You, have felt it neccessarily to use insult, though. ("naive")
Unfortunately, this is a time-tested liberal tactic, and I can expose it.
Liberal tactic #1 - Resort to name-calling to arouse emotion in lieu of reason.
My comment was only in reference to this boy, for whom we only have the
information at hand - that the suit was brought my the parents, not the boy.
Therefore, my opinion on this situation is, in the least, valid, if not
completely accurate.
Your logic fails to apply to this situation.
> > We 'normal' folks like to play God and judge the 'value' of that human life
> > (and sometimes end it), while we simultaneously choose to save all sorts of
> > less intelligent animals and plants.
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> Again, quite naive. The issue is not simply the 'value' of human life but
> rather the quality of that life, and for you to claim some knowledge that
> others "would like [their] existance (sic) to continue" is as presumptuous
> as claiming that someone else most likely would prefer to end his life.
Dave (no personal offense intended) - you missed the point here as well.
As above, I'm speaking on my opinion in just this case, which you are
certianly welcome to disagree with, but ...
Don't presume to place yourself in the position of God over anyone, which
you do when you start to evaluate "quality of life".
I, at least, value humans, which, I see, you don't.
Let's be open about our positions. I don't judge the life of others, you
presume to.
-Jon
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| (...) Kinda like what you just did with that statement, eh? Liberals and conservatives alike will often say whatever they think it will take to "win" the point or at least get the goat of the other guy. Both sides indulge in name-calling and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Boy sues (and wins) for NOT being aborted
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| (...) Well, sort of. A statement of certitude differs from an expression of opinion in that certitude implies fact or truth. Had you said "I think that even though this boy..." it would have expressed your opinion and eliminated any need for (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That is a horrifically presumptuous and naive statement. If your claim were true, there would be no history of euthanasia, nor suicide, nor assisted suicide. (...) Again, quite naive. The issue is not simply the 'value' of human life but (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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