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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Hear Hear! If people cannot undergo scrutiny of their belief system, then there is something wrong. The difference b/w scrutiny and all-out harassment is hard to determine, but (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To be honest I wish you wouldn't post on LUGNET(tm) at all, you're somewhere between extremely low value add, and significant negative value add. Once in a while you come up with an outside cite of some limited value but by and large your own (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Quoting Scott A <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com>: (...) So how is this different than Israel, Scott? The Israelies already gave up some land. It is extremists in the PA (both elected and unelected) who are currently dragging their heels, and fanning the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I find that comment a little disingenuous. To be honest, I wish you would just ignore me. (...) As I said, "I don’t think I have ever made any link between the IRA and American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are] (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've no problem with that. The problem is that over half of the population of NI are unionists. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, more denial from you. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sigh* Even the PA recognises their right to exist. The Israeli agenda is land theft. Anyone who really believes in freedom [as opposed to self interest] would understand that. (...) What about the war criminals in Israel? What should happen (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sigh* Even the PA recognises their right to exist. The Israeli agenda is land theft. Anyone who really believes in freedom [as opposed to self interest] would understand that. (...) What about the war criminals in Israel? What should happen (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's say for a moment that what Christians believe in *is* silly. Would it then be worthwhile to help show them this? Is it worthwhile in general to discredit other people's silly beliefs, even when they are very much convinced of these silly (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Cool, I had no idea I could translate Danish :) Must be 'cause I mostly hear it spoken and I can hardly hear what they say. Same goes with sothern Swedes (Skåningar). (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Palestinian and Isrealis, and the Irish and the English need to try and realize that their best course of action is negotiation and compromise. Effectively, though, this means that Isrealis need to give up some land, and the English need (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please note that Brendan said he was raised Christian. I would also argue that almost everyone in the US is sufficiently affected by Christianity to have sufficient reason to question it. I would also argue that if a religion can not withstand (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not really. England took Ireland by force. Not much else to say. (...) The evidence certainly seems to suggest that that is not the case in Northern Ireland. (...) There is no easy answer, especially when such a high level of animosity has (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol Thank you for lumping together all of the groups that it is politically correct to bash! "White-christian-right"??? What "power"?? What the heck are you talking about? More racism? -John (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm going to jump on your parenthetical comment, Bruce, to make a point. The Palestinians have an agenda-- self-determination, Statehood, and peace. The Israelis have an agenda-- the recognition of their right to exist, and peace. Muslim (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm curious as to how you think the BT is worthwhile to a Christian by showing that what they believe in is silly (I can see why is it useful to *you*-- a "creative" expression of your rejection of your perceived silliness of Christianity, and (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing, if that's what it is. What actually happened here? The conventional answer is that England took Ireland by force, right? Isn't it a lot more complicated than that? I dunno, haven't done research in depth but aren't we in some cases (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, what's wrong with trying to throw out a foreign occupying force? Rather see them do it Gandhi/King style, though. Blowing up baby carriages just hurts their own cause (kinda like the Palestinians). -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh!! I was typing so quickly (as usual) that it went right by me! Apologies Larry! Still, thanks for the word usage! I shan't mistype your name again, ++Lar! Dave K (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lar++ Careful Dave - the postfix operator is definitely *not* equivalent to the prefix operator, and using Lar++ may produce unpredictable results... ROSCO (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Ooooh, one of my favourite words that is rarely used in this day and age. I shan't deny... :) Thanks for brightening up my otherwise dreary and depressing day at work, (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Breaking my usual practice of ignoring you and your nonsense, I decided to see how hard it was to clarify this for you. It wasn't hard at all. Using the search string "fund terrorist ireland arthur" it's not too hard to dig up lots of examples (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you mean me, I don’t think I have ever made any link between the IRA and American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are] specifically? Call me on that if I’m wrong, otherwise I’d appreciate some clarification. Further, the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps because the white-christian-right holds so much power? Scott A (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "discusting and revolting"? I'll have to assume, for lack of you being specific, that you're talking about the content on my personal website TheReverend.com, but it's anyone's guess just what it is you find so "discusting and revolting". Is (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I do not believe in God. (...) Being Christian and being black aren't particularly analagous. Christianity is a religion comprised of a belief system that you can either choose to accept or reject. Being black means you happened to be born (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you mean *cheek* turning christians. Unless, of course, you're referring to the Irish Americans who apparently keep turning checks over to the IRA that someone keeps trying to use as an argument... (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But this really isn't about BPS and God having a good laugh-- heck, BPS probably doesn't even believe in God. It's about BPS and you having a good laugh at Joe Christian and his relationship with God. It's like the unwritten rule that only (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think what he felt was betrayal and a sense of being lied to. If he had known going in that it was mockery, his reaction IMO would have been different. I really don't care about someone's paticular beliefs when I view their MOC, unless their (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I recall a NG documentary where the explorers dug a basement in Jericho (sp?), and found an almost complete arsenal of human arms since Ancient Times to 1947 Independance war of Israel. In *a single* basement... so I can understand what you (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And b/w friends and family that's fully understood and there's no issues at all! My friends and myself have a huge 'banter' thing going on--any small slip or gaffe in conversation generates lots of ridicule. But that's amongst friends--to have (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ;) See, b/w friends you can tell me I'm an idiot and snicker at the dumb things I do--good friends laugh at one another when we do stupid things :) As long as we know that there's a helping hand behind the laugh--friends know that :) Dave K (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Once, a long time ago, when my little sister was about 3 years old, she exclaimed "Ow! My feelings!". We found it hilarious. Still do. Should we not? I think the point is not to belittle those who are naive, while still being able to find (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough, you're right. It DID make me snicker though, I just couldn't help it. You should have seen what I didn't post... :-) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I concur with your synopsis as well. I have seen many people who profess their Christianity spouting venom and hatred of those things 'unChristian'. To me, that's a very unChristian, and quite frankly more important, inhuman thing to do. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) And I believe that naive people need to be guided and not laughed at. Who here would point and snicker at someone who 'just got off the boat' into a strange land where the rules and (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you forgot to capitalize Beer... (if it's god's beer it's beer with a capital B right?) (...) Were I a believer I'd be saying that he works in mysterious ways, getting a non believer to spend so much time spreading the word. And as for (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message news:H691K8.CJH@lugnet.com... (...) Ok "superstition" was a bit harsh. I should have said "belief". But I seriously do still stand by my opinion of how rediculous it is to completely discount something (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also 'stuck my foot in it'--I was so impressed that a 'Reverend' played with LEGO and was doing the Bible with LEGO bricks. I went and told some of my friends. Then I realized, probably due to a BPS posting at the time, that he wasn't a (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Easy there, tiger. I was snickering at the rather credulous and wide eyed statement (unfortunately snipped, but worth rereading) that Ronald Scott Moody initially made, not his particular worldview. Such charming naivety is, well... lauguable, (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if it makes Scott feel any better, I failed to see the joke a year ago: (URL) in my defense I seem to recall that the stories illustrated in LEGO up to that time were less satirical than they later became. That's not to say that the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I too have laughed at more than one depiction of Biblical events as portrayed in brick on Brendan's site. I would add to this debate that God very likely has a sense of humor about these things too. Afterall, if we were created in his image, (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) doesn't fit into their worldview! Quoteth Larry " Well that's certainly ONE view of what he's doing, yes. Please forgive me for snickering out loud when I read the above paragraph " (though, to be said, Larry did put in the apology before the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Ronald Scott Moody" <uberwindin@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:H689GH.609@lugnet.com... (...) you (...) proclaim (...) have (...) face (...) not (...) that (...) Fundies rock. Lets just disregard all creative aspects of Brendan's work because (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) snip Scott, Brendan's site is religious in nature but it is not christian. I hope for your sake you stayed out of the new testament. Sometimes slight and other times not so slight mockery of God can be found in every story. I too collect (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I just heard that somebody just won twice! :-P <my comment was tongue-in-cheek as well> -John (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The UK has already lost 1000's to terrorists. Much of it supporeted by *your* countrymen: (URL)You just don't get it. You don't. OBL has been a terrorist for quite a while. You country trained him. None of that was a problem until he bit the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The fall-out continues: (URL) points of further interest from the article: 1- (from the article) " She apologized last week, but the furor has continued in Canada. On Monday, some opposition members of Parliament noted the comment appeared in an (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Well, here's a little story about a kid named Dave. First, let me just say that this kid has a pretty awesome name, but that's not the story... Our little hero was born around (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's the ! that makes all the difference. Dave! (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave! always comes up with better examples than me! Oh well. :) Dave K. (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree 100%. But the problem is that conservatives in general (and, honestly, you in particular, in OT.debate at least) tend to castigate liberal commentators for doing exactly the same things for which conservative commentators are lauded. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Naturally! And I haven't won the lottery, so no one has won the lottery. Dave! (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a reasonable position to take, but I urge you not to limit your careful analysis simply to new ideas; there's no reason not to subject one's pre-existing views to that same kind of critical examination. Dave! (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, Q. Who trained OBL? [A. USA] Q. Who helped SH get WOMD? [A. USA] Q. Which nation has sloppy bio-security [A. USA et al] Q. Which nation has threatened to use nukes in the ME [A. USA] Q. If SH does have WOMD, what scenario would make him (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had no clue what else he had on the rest of his page. I would never have thought that someone would put something up religeous in nature in a maner such as I interpreted the Brick Testament on one page and then the kind of discusting and (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No *you* believe in *your* freedom. (...) That's another problem solved! Scott A (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who knows? But there are not too many identifiable folk who have not assimilated. That nobody really understands precisely what a helot was, is one demonstration. I know of a story of one annihilated city whose survivors petitioned their (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bull. I don't trust John Ashcroft to protect anyone's rights. Nor did I trust Janet Reno either. Did you even look at the "Habeas Corpus" post I posted? "sounds convenient" indeed. (...) I don't trust that the president isn't so wacked. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bad example. Because we DID concentrate on Italy first. We did a holding action in the pacific, rolled through Africa and up into Italy and then opened yet another front in europe via Normandy. Only once the war was won did we switch focus to (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If anything, the true beauty of The Brick Testament (aside from the incredible modelling and stunning photography) is that it avoids controversy almost completely by simply telling the stories of the Bible without actually changing them. Who (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, not to sound insensitive, but if OBL attacked Canada, I would care a lot less than I do now. Part of that may be human nature. Millions of people die every day, but I'd care a whole lot more if one of them was in *my* family. >Show me (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough :-) (...) That is true, although it does not tell us what happened to the slaves *in time*: did their descendents eventually gain citizenship? Were they assimilated? The city state, having been overrun, was it rebuilt? Did the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am saying that I care *more* *because* it happened to me, as you would if OBL had leveled Buckingham Palace and 1,000s of *your* countrymen were murdered. You just don't get it. If not for the courageous actions of a handful of Americans, (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, what does it matter which skyscraper was levelled? If it was Bloor and Yonge that was 'ground zero' and a year+ later JC was going on some campaign against someone who wasn't even *involved* in the attack, of course we'd call his (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Darn right, because we happen to believe in freedom. (...) Ah, the "truth" about global warming? Let me ask you Dave, how much global warming are you experiencing up there? None for me here, either! (...) Just answer my question, Dave. Would (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The term "moronic" is patently condescending, thus making it indeed a cheap shot. Further, you may not agree with this logic: 1) Sadam has or is developing WMD. 2) Sadam is sympathetic to terrorist organizations 3) OBL is the leader of a (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sheesh, Larry why don't you go ahead and tell folks that Santa doesn't exist while you're at it. You bubble-burster you. Greg P.S. Mine wasn't a snicker - it was an all out snort! (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I completely concur with Bruce. I know that RBPS is not a church going/God believing person, but that does not negate my appreciation of his retelling of the Bible in LEGO one little bit! I look forward to the latest additions to his (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is that? Do you not care unless you are the victim? (...) My point is that talk is better than violence. (...) It has worked better than violence - that is my point. (...) The "right" will be happy that you think that is what the problem (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, Just to throw in my two cents, I'm a highly religious person who very much enjoys Brendan's work. He is being fairly true to the text*. So a view of the impact of his work really rests on your view of the underlying text. If you are a (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I spoke too soon on many fronts-- First (URL) is the aide handed in her resignation again, and this time JC accepted. Quoteth from the article " Ducros apologized for her comment last week and offered to resign, but Chrétien rejected her (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Not to hijack this thread back to the original topic of insulting one another... But quoting Larry... since no one has responded directly to the original issue of 'tomfoolery' across our (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we can agree that wackos come in all favors. (...) I am not for silencing criticism, but I think that insults are not necessary. How about *constuctive* criticism-- that's what I'd like. (...) I don't watch TV, much less own cable, so (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well that's certainly ONE view of what he's doing, yes. Please forgive me for snickering out loud when I read the above paragraph, though. Ronald, you may want to check your assumptions a lot more carefully before you proclaim that you're sure (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But there's nothing like a Pearl Harbor or 9-11 to jolt one's senses. The sad truth is that a bloody nose is *exactly* what it takes. (...) And what if she does? What the hell does that have to do with anything? (...) Please. Diplomacy has (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That might be more common. Could ask the Statistics of Deadly Quarrels research folks about the majority. So maybe not so many whole civilizations, but certainly city-states and isolated population centers. Philip II at Thebes. Alexander at (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One could compare it to a much more present situation :-) (funny how History repeats itself over and over again) (...) Are you sure that so many wars ended that way? From my own experience, I think it's a lot more common that the "losers" of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Read of the end of Carthage: (URL) skip the last paragraph where Scipio compares Carthage to Troy. Innumerable wars have ended with complete annihilation of the enemy. The world is littered with dead cities, dead languages, untraceable peoples. The (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rome vs. Carthage, the three Punic Wars. The third was pure force, resulting in the total anihilation of Carthage (even in physical terms) and enslavement of the surviving carthaginians. That is, in fact, a permanent solution. Question is, is (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have heard it thru American friends this weekend that companies that make pharmaceuticals will be protected from lawsuits for 'known side effects', should this bill pass. Again, could be rumour, but that's a little scary if true. Dave K (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, here's a brief interesting historical interpretation: (URL) entire article (the good bit is closer to the end of the article, listing a bunch of, shall we say, more colourful metaphors used by American and Canadian folks): Editorial: (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Is there an online version of the full +/- 400 page bill? I'd like to see which corporations have been removed from accountability and which have been rewarded for creating unemployment and for dodging tax responsibility. Thanks! Dave! (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it a rest. I wrote this post in an effort to stop your disruptive behaviour: (URL) man enough to either stick to the issues or keep quiet. Scott A (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I prefer Mike Huben's analysis: "The Libertarian Party is well on its way to dominating the political landscape, judging from its power base of 100+ elected dogcatchers and other important officials after 25 years of effort." ;) More here: (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know-- Jesus was too much on the straight and narrow to drive a fried-out Combi. I'd see him more at the helm of the Patridge Family bus, and if he were driving in road-rage-ravaged LA, the sign on the back of the bus would say, (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like a rebellious child: his dad had a Plymouth (God drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, "in a Fury!" - thank you, Scott Ostler). Yeah, if Jesus had to actually drive himself (SoCAl) it would be a VW MicroBus. (...) I thought the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd also go with the VW bus. I think it has to do with the stereotypical image of Jesus left over from Sunday school mixed up with childhood memories of hippies-- it's easy to imagine Jesus driving up Highway 1 giving rides to hitchhiking (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He'd take public transportation, without a doubt. The Apostles would shift for themselves (was that an unintentional anti-automatic transmission joke?). I suppose the more interesting question is what would Satan drive? -->Bruce<-- Who drives (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean "VW"? And would that be before or after his sex change operation? -John (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves off as "fair (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wouldn't exactly call "he who has the biggest stick" a naive solution-- perhaps a tried and proven one.... Remember, Saddam has a pretty big stick himself-- he has butchered 100,000s of his own people with it! So why are so many bleeding (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) bother with silly old due process... just lock them away for months or years and we'll all be a lot safer. "them" in this context being whoever it is the government has squirreled away for our protection. Not sure who exactly that *is* since (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me also point out what Pat B is saying about Canadians--"Look at all we have done for them and they continue to whine." K, Pat, I'm sitting here waiting for you to list all the great and wondrous things you "'Mericans" have done for us (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I wonder how we would all feel if Dubya at least acted like a true leader of "the people"--leading them to do the right thing--instead of trotting down the same old 'naive solution' of 'he who has the biggest stick'. What I want to hear, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is it that when Limbaugh, Reagan, Gallagher, Buchannan, Falwell, Robertson, Carlson, Will, O'Reilly et al spout pro-Republican invective it's called "fair and balanced reporting," but when a left-leaning commentator voices n opinion it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't help but to wonder if this person's opinion would be different had OBL leveled a different target-- namely Toronto's First Canadian Place. He may disagree with Bush's decisions handling worldwide terrorism, but calling them "moronic" (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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