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Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
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Sun, 24 Nov 2002 06:14:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > > Someone, somewhere, in a position of Canadian Authority, told it like it is.
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> > He may disagree with Bush's decisions handling worldwide terrorism, but
> > calling them "moronic" is mere demogoguery.
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> Why is it that when Limbaugh, Reagan, Gallagher, Buchannan, Falwell,
> Robertson, Carlson, Will, O'Reilly et al spout pro-Republican invective it's
> called "fair and balanced reporting," but when a left-leaning commentator
> voices an opinion it's called demagoguery? Is that the accursed Liberal Media
> at work again?
I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be
unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's
the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves
off as "fair and balanced when in actuality they are just as biased in the
other direction.
I characterized the Canadian's astute observation of Bush's policy as
demogoguery because it was empty of substance and full of emotional tripe. You
mentioned Jessica Lange (which I sniped). She "hates" Bush; it's all about
emotion and feelings with the Left-- let's see some substanitive criticism
instead of this tired ad hominen blather of "Dubya" and the like.
> > What I'd like to hear are some alternate solutions to deal with terrorism
> > that don't include a dependence upon the naive solution of diplomacy (because
> > I've seen how well that strategy has worked in the ME)
> See? There's a fine example--you decry the (yet to be proven inaccurate)
> label of "moronic" as demagoguery, but you're happy to dismiss diplomacy (as
> yet untried in the current situtation) as "naive."
Oh really? So the fact that Hussein has been violating his agreement with the
UN for the past 10 years doesn't count as a loss for diplomacy? We should have
taken him out the first time around, but the UN would never have stood for
that. And now here we are, 10 years later and in virtually the same spot.
And give me a break, Dave! The use of the term "moronic" was meant as an
insult, and a politically-INcorrect one at that.
> And your rhetorical point
> is weakened still further since you're concluding that, because diplomacy
> hasn't worked in one situation, it cannot work in another.
I asked for an instance where it *has* worked in a major conflict. Can you
cite?
> And your typical
> over-generalizing is once again shining through by your offhand reference to
> diplomatic 'failure' "in the ME" as if that region were to be painted with a
> single brush.
> Bravo to you for your unflappable consistency!
I personally happen to believe that there would be peace between Palestinians
and Israelis today were it not for Islamic extremists.
> Dave!
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> By the way--what *would* Jesus drive?
For starters, it would have to be big enough to carry him and his 12
disciples....
-John
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| (...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Why is it that when Limbaugh, Reagan, Gallagher, Buchannan, Falwell, Robertson, Carlson, Will, O'Reilly et al spout pro-Republican invective it's called "fair and balanced reporting," but when a left-leaning commentator voices n opinion it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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